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Pediatric transition skeptics. 'Like samizdat for the sane & ideologically uncowed'. Free speech. Science. Head tweeter: Denise aka Marie (Founder)

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 17 Oct 2019

      It's ridiculous. Anyone reading this thread can see all the ad hominems and wild conspiracy theories are being hurled from one direction. It's OK TO DISAGREE and if you say things on public Twitter, getting a public response you may or may not agree with is....kind of normal.

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    4. Jennifer Bilek‏ @bjportraits 17 Oct 2019

      Start hurling hand grenades at folks you were allies with just a short time ago & people are gonna speculate. It goes with turn-coat territory. This is a blatant about-face on a public media platform & then w/the suggestion that parents should grieve in private. Give me a break.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 17 Oct 2019

      Brie's original point was: Referring publicly to young ppl as "medically harmed beyond repair" & "never to be returned to us whole" might be counterproductive. Those flaying her now COULD have engaged w/her views in good faith (even if they disagreed). Don't be WrongThink police.

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    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 17 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @bjportraits and

      Why accuse ppl who disagree w/ you of being "traitors" or "turncoats"? Genderist scolds demand ideological conformity. Let's not expect it of each other. Taking an opinion as personal, ill-intended assault doesn't help anyone. Why not assume good intent, even if you differ?

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    8. Jennifer Bilek‏ @bjportraits 17 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @CrystalSpace68 @pauldirks

      Because that "opinion" was wrapped in a whole lot of gross condescension aimed directly at people who are suffering the most - the parents watching their kids being swallowed whole by a cult. That "care" dripping in condescension is what makes her a turn-coat. Very disingenuous!

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    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 17 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bjportraits @CrystalSpace68 @pauldirks

      Saying you find her to be condescending is very different from accusing her of being a "turncoat" (was a loyalty oath signed?) "Disingenuous" means "dishonest." Brie seemed to be sharing her honest opinion. You (& others) may disagree, but demonizing really does burn bridges.

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    10. Jennifer Bilek‏ @bjportraits 17 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @CrystalSpace68 @pauldirks

      Had she been grossly condescending to ppl she didn't know, she would only be condescending. Since she is being condescending to women who are standing where she once was, allies, is what makes her a turncoat, imo. Take it or leave it. You are not obliged to like it or accept it

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 17 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bjportraits @CrystalSpace68 @pauldirks

      And you aren't obliged to like or accept that not everyone agrees with your assessment of the situation. Maybe engage with her about why you believe her condescension is an issue. Might be more productive than the "turncoat" approach. You could also try to get her point.

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        2. Jennifer Bilek‏ @bjportraits 17 Oct 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @CrystalSpace68 @pauldirks

          You're the one who took issue with it. And, I really don't have a problem with the original tweet that inclined Brie, after being "done w/all this gender stuff," to make a huge thread castigating an organization doing some really fine work. Talk about being unproductive. hmmmmm

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 17 Oct 2019
          Replying to @bjportraits @CrystalSpace68 @pauldirks

          Why the hmmmmm? Just disagree. Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE Brie (or 4thWaveNow) get money from pharma?? You don't like what she said (and/or how she said it), or that she to criticized a tweet from an org. Fair enough. (And enough.)

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