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    4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Sep 2019

    4thWaveNow Retweeted helena

    Some parents reach out to detransitioners for help w/their kids, but it's not their job (or their expertise). Also not every detransitioner is a regretter. And many detrans are young themselves, with a lot on their plates. Not meant to scold; just speaking from experience.https://twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1168277972660473858 …

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    helena @lacroicsz
    I’m sorry y’all, I don’t feel comfortable answering specific questions about anyone’s trans identifying child or how to lead them to desist or detransition. I’m not a therapist and there’s no way to know how to interpret others very complex emotional landscape w/o knowing them
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      2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Sep 2019

        Even if a detransitioner is gracious enough to try to help, their advice will naturally be filtered through the lens of their experience w/their own parents (& talking to you may "trigger" memories/feelings). Not a recipe for objectivity, & may just cause more pain for everyone.

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      3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Sep 2019

        Many detransitioners are writing, making videos, & speaking out on social media. There's plenty to learn from their experiences without asking them to be unpaid counselors. Here's an excellent new article by a detransitioner, w/plenty on family dynamics. https://medium.com/@lukaswarrior/medical-transition-is-not-the-answer-47e30650cf94 …

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      4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Sep 2019

        "Allow them to dress however they want, cut their hair however they want, and choose whatever name they want. None of these things are irreversible. They should be allowed to experiment with their personality. But don’t encourage them to change their bodies."pic.twitter.com/1aIPV8bLoS

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      5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Sep 2019

        Parents want an answer, a formula, a set of bullet points. But it's never one-size-fits-all. The waiting can feel intolerable, but it's unavoidable, existential. Ultimately the decision will be made by the young person themselves--hopefully w/a dash of parental wisdom in the mix.

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      2. Mumtears  😢 🇨🇦 #WontBeShutUp  🏁‏ @mumtears1 1 Sep 2019
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow

        Thank you for this reminder @4th_WaveNow. These detrans stories cause me conflicting emotions. Heartbreak re what choices they made & small Hope abt my own dghtr even tho I know this could be my hoping for 5-10+ more years. I do believe that #GenderCanBeHarmful

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      3. Radical Liberal Julie Rei Goldstein‏ @JulieRei 1 Sep 2019
        Replying to @mumtears1 @4th_WaveNow

        Why on God’s Green Earth would you ever hope for your son to come to regret his choices and become miserable? Maybe you should just trust the choice he made was in fact the right one and instead hope for a fuller and happier life so you can have a fulfilling relationship.

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      1. Erial‏ @1Erial 2 Sep 2019
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        Agree 100%. It’s great to hear their voices, and their perspectives have been profoundly helpful in understanding my own child. That in itself is enough.

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