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    1. Michael Bailey‏ @profjmb 27 Aug 2019

      Michael Bailey Retweeted Kay Brown

      Kay, you are not following the academic literature, nor are you reading good informed blogs. I recommend 4thWaveNow. There has been a huge increase in referrals for gender dysphoria, with the largest increase among adolescent girls.https://twitter.com/Display_Geek/status/1166457415816007680 …

      Michael Bailey added,

      Kay Brown @Display_Geek
      I said that the Littman paper is flawed. Second we have NO evidence that the particular phenomena (I WON'T accede to calling it a "problem", that's a value judgement that should never be made) of "ROGD" exists, only that some parents are SAYING it exists.
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    2. Michael Bailey‏ @profjmb 27 Aug 2019

      You also are taking the unhelpful position that there is no evidence for ROGD except for Littman, parents, etc., but it is not clear what you would accept as evidence at this early stage.

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    3. Michael Bailey‏ @profjmb 27 Aug 2019

      When the Littman study is exactly what should count as first evidence. Not that the Littman study came out of the blue.

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    4. Michael Bailey‏ @profjmb 27 Aug 2019

      20 years ago parents were not talking about ROGD. Even 10 years ago they weren't. Now they are. And they're organized. And I hear second-hand their stories. And I have met ROGD desisters–yes they identify as such. Listen to the Boyce of Reason podcast with Helena and friends

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 27 Aug 2019
      Replying to @profjmb

      Here's one of those @BenjaminABoyce interviews. You have to wonder how many more young women like Jesse there have to be before people like Kay will stop denying their "lived experience." Because there are more speaking up all the time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA9GhyM2r9A&list=PLRdayXEOwuMH3f0pmZqVQUU62rgJIzvt9&index=24 …

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        1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 27 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @profjmb @BenjaminABoyce

          4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

          It's a valid criticism to say only parents were surveyed in Littman's study (a limitation SHE acknowledges). But it's hard to understand insisting that "ROGD is not a thing" when formerly trans-ID'ed ppl tell you they experienced it. Try this (cued up):https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1126685385805877248 …

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          Dagny, of @PiqueResProject , just starting her panel talk in Vancouver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHREA4Q4V4Q …
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