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    1. Will Malone MD‏ @will_malone 10 Aug 2019

      The average 85% desistance rate of childhood gender dysphoria is a hard truth for the gender clinicians to accept. I’ve linked to a paper and have screen shots of the relevant text showing this fact. >>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/09540261.2015.1115754?scroll=top&needAccess=true …

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    2. Sabow  🇵🇸 - Free Palestine and Britney  🌹‏ @sabowsky 10 Aug 2019
      Replying to @will_malone

      Does this study that references numerous studies over the last 30 years conflate gender identity disorder and gender dysphoria? I thought the high desistance rate in studies before the early 2010's didn't have the strict criteria that GD was "the desire to be the opposite sex"

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    3. Sabow  🇵🇸 - Free Palestine and Britney  🌹‏ @sabowsky 10 Aug 2019
      Replying to @sabowsky @will_malone

      Though I think it is clear that the for gender dysphoric kids the desire to be the opposite sex either grows or diminishes around puberty so that does check out.

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 11 Aug 2019
      Replying to @RogdFamily @sabowsky @will_malone

      Suspect @ZUCKERKJ would have something to say about this. The TRA claim that DSM 4 was so different from DSM 5 that it wrongly conflated mere GNC with GD does not hold up to scrutiny.

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    6. Sabow  🇵🇸 - Free Palestine and Britney  🌹‏ @sabowsky 11 Aug 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @RogdFamily and

      The claim checks out with basic logic, a GNC kid isn't GD so of course they aren't going to be trans later in life, hence majority desistance rates. If there is a good answer I'm open to it and will be looking for it

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 11 Aug 2019
      Replying to @sabowsky @RogdFamily and

      Gender dysphoria can resolve--that's what you're missing here. Once gender dysphoric does not equal always gender dysphoric.

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @sabowsky and

          Historically, the majority of even very dysphoric kids grew out of it; many (not all) grew to be lesbian or gay adults who made peace with their bodies.

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        3. Karin Litzcke, PPC Candidate, Vancouver East, 2021‏ @KarinLitzcke 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @sabowsky and

          It's not just with their bodies, but with the mythology they have about their bodies. I've noted a theme in detransitioning girls who say they felt a lot of fear of men, & have wondered if our whole "rape culture" stories contribute to the ROGD phenomenon. If so, the metoo ...

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        2. Sabow  🇵🇸 - Free Palestine and Britney  🌹‏ @sabowsky 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @RogdFamily and

          That doesn't address the definitions though? The change occurred in 2013 so studies of the past that didn't explicitly find kids who desired to be the other sex couldn't be reputable, no?

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        3. The Ratty Reader  🦎 🐍 🕸️ 🏁 🟥‏ @TransRadically 22 Sep 2019
          Replying to @sabowsky @4th_WaveNow and

          Even if that's true, gender therapists reported at HBIGDA conferences, through the emergence of WPATH, that among patients, 90% realized they weren't transsexual / transgender. Regardless of definition, "desistance" has been pretty steady and rather large.

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