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    1. Rhea Liang‏Verified account @LiangRhea 9 Aug 2019
      Replying to @LiangRhea @JacksonTh1702 and

      So why shouldn't we use those abilities to achieve health for trans people? Also- we can't yet change genomic sex, but we can certainly consider phenotypic and psychological gender, which is far more their true identity. You don't see chromosomes; you see a *person*. #LGBTQI 🏳️‍🌈

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    5. Rhea Liang‏Verified account @LiangRhea 9 Aug 2019

      Will there always be difficulty obtaining level 1 evidence for trans health due to low numbers? Yes. Is it ethical to even conduct randomised trials about gender affirmation? No. Do trans people have higher rates of poor mental health and suicidality? Yes 1/2

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    6. Rhea Liang‏Verified account @LiangRhea 9 Aug 2019
      Replying to @LiangRhea @JacksonTh1702 and

      Are we forcing anyone to undergo gender affirmation? No. Do I see the amazing positive transformation in those who can finally live in a body that is congruent with their identity? Yes. Do I care whether you think you have any say over their choices? Not a squit. 👋 2/2

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    9. Rhea Liang‏Verified account @LiangRhea 10 Aug 2019

      But that's my point entirely. It's not a disease, it's a matter of health. And I see no reason as a doctor not to support people to be their authentic selves. It's a recognised condition, it isn't cosmetic, it's funded, it's legal. Your #discrimination though? *That's* illegal.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 10 Aug 2019

      Wonder if she realizes you're actually talking about yourself...

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        1. No More Radicals Any More‏ @CyberWanderlust 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

          Also, this person is a surgeon? What the fuck... things said about maturity from a medical professional...

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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Ray Blanchard

          https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/993849592281227264?s=20 …

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          Ray Blanchard @BlanchardPhD
          I believe that transsexualism/gender dysphoria is a type of mental disorder and that all further description and prescription must take this into account. Thus I view all purely political analyses of trans issues as incomplete.
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Ray Blanchard

          https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1012068851230695424?s=20 …

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          Ray Blanchard @BlanchardPhD
          The politically inspired dogma that transsexualism is not a type of mental disorder might paradoxically *increase* mockery of, and hostility toward, transsexual people. If there is no disorder, there is no reason to be charitable or accommodating.
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Ray Blanchard

          https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/886561835058647040?s=20 …

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          Ray Blanchard @BlanchardPhD
          The first step in politicizing transsexualism - either pro or con - is ignoring or denying its essential nature as a type of mental disorder
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Lisa Bildy

          https://twitter.com/LDBildy/status/1158911383171403776?s=20 …

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          Lisa Bildy @LDBildy
          This moving piece describes the experience of too many parents of children with Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD). Well done, @LisaMarchiano. In a world where only those with an "identity" have an authentic voice, we shouldn't be surprised that young teens gravitate to this. https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1158763830232662017 …
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Lily Maynard

          https://twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1157054488169123841?s=20 …

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          Lily Maynard @LilyLilyMaynard
          Replying to @intersexdesi @TeelaWild
          A young person who suddenly become trans identified in adolescence has rapid onset gender dysphoria. Unlike those who develop it as littlies, or autogynophilic blokes who come to it in later life. Enough kids report on it for it to obviously be ‘real’
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

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          RedCarD  🟥 🧙‍♀️ @RedCarDYell
          Replying to @MyWebDoctorUK
          This is what Dr Webberley doesn’t want disseminated widely. pic.twitter.com/jTKH0Magqe
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Lisa Marchiano

          https://twitter.com/LisaMarchiano/status/1100867262133735424?s=20 …

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          Lisa Marchiano @LisaMarchiano
          I've spoken with hundreds of parents whose teens suddenly announced that they were trans out of the blue. Their stories are heartbreaking. Kids are learning on the internet that if their parents don't immediately embrace medical transition, that their parents are transphobic. 1
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

           🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸 Retweeted Tracy S

          https://twitter.com/akfirefly76/status/1087352978544181248?s=20 …

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          Tracy S @akfirefly76
          Replying to @LisaPatrEvans @anygirlinSydney and 6 others
          It is unconscionable to experiment on healthy children. First response to these kids should be therapy. Checking for underlying issues: is there sexual abuse, are they closeted, are they being bullied for being GNC? All that should come before extreme untested experiments.
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        1.  🇺🇸@___Lorenco___  🇺🇸‏ @___lor__ 11 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LiangRhea and

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          https://twitter.com/solongsweeties/status/1115168690998321152?s=20 …

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          solongsweeties @solongsweeties
          Replying to @AaronBastani
          "going full batshit" - including the 18 NHS specialists who quit the gender clinic over ethics and safety fears, you mean?
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