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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Aug 2019

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      Some people are griping about a 4thWaveNow article by @BJontry . The article reveals the world's leading gender therapists admitting on Facebook that they have **no idea** whether this new generation of puberty-blocked kids will have full sexual function as adults.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1158206523220398080 …

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      Replying to @Simon_Whitten @DanielleACole @SafeSchools_UK
      That "secondhand source" isn't "anonymous"; it's none other than comments made on Facebook by top US gender therapists. Maybe Biggs could have cited a more mainstream source if these people talked about these things more openly and publicly. https://www.facebook.com/groups/transgenderhealth/permalink/1201494443228313/ … pic.twitter.com/GZtaUjgBU9
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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Aug 2019

      "Anonymous secondhand source"? "Anecdotes"? Not quite. We see Olson-Kennedy, Scott Leibowitz, Laura Edwards-Leeper & others asking--in vain--if there is ANY research on adult orgasmic potential in those who've been blocked, then treated w/x-sex hormones. https://www.facebook.com/groups/transgenderhealth/permalink/1201494443228313/ …pic.twitter.com/rMWwFQdBnp

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Aug 2019

      This response in the long Facebook thread (see prior tweet) typifies the attitude often expressed by affirmative clinicians: These blocked kids have no sex drive anyway, so, hey, maybe the future "big O" isn't important anyway. Maybe they're right. But if they're wrong...pic.twitter.com/25nl57KcDD

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Aug 2019

      "Hard to know post-op results ...takes years to study them...it would be interesting to see longterm sexual arousal outcomes." It's all a grand medical experiment. But it's going to be "interesting" ....10, 15, 20, 30 years down the line.pic.twitter.com/U13qrHG8v4

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Aug 2019

      These people have the power to permanently alter the bodies of kids at the earliest stages of puberty--as young as 8 or 9 years old. They are speculating, in precise detail, on whether their interventions might forever destroy the future ability of these kids to achieve orgasm.

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Aug 2019

          Same activists who dismiss the "Big O" as unimportant for blocked trans kids who won't know what they're missing as adults also wave away permanent sterilization caused by blockers + cross-sex hormones: "Oh, they'll adopt! Oh, why do you believe all women should be mothers?"

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Aug 2019

          The elephant in the room they entirely miss: ADULTS are allowing kids as young as 10 or 11 to make irreversible decisions about their future sexual function and fertility. Decisions that in the sane world we recently lived in were understood to be reserved for grown adults only.

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Aug 2019

          So much of this is down to "let the child lead, trust the child, the child KNOWS"! Some gender crits get it wrong when they say adults are imposing all this on kids. No, many of the kids ARE saying they want it. The point is that...

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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Aug 2019

          ...There are few adults who provide perspective, to build resilience/patience instead of pandering to the natural child/adolescent desire for NOW = instant gratification. If trans activists cared as much about "trans kids" as they claim, they'd be the adults who do this.

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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Aug 2019

          A PDF (not very high quality) of the full Facebook conversation re: adult sexual function in puberty-blocked youth can be downloaded here: https://www.docdroid.net/XwlO83T/sexual-function-2016-facebook-post-expanded.pdf … The original Facebook discussion is still available here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/transgenderhealth/permalink/1201494443228313/ …

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        1. JonBownePolitix‏ @JonBownePolitix 4 Aug 2019
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          Medieval.

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        1. Beth Daranciang‏ @bethsd 4 Aug 2019
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          To sterilize children and destroy their future sexual function, when they have no way of knowing what they will miss out on by going through these treatments, is diabolical. I'm incredibly sad for the children and mad at the adults.

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        2. Ellie Scott‏ @KodaScott1 5 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow

          Even in UK, giving 4 and 5 yr olds books about how Freddie becomes a princess is the start of the lie. Grooming kids to think they can “become” the opposite sex. Can a 5 yr old understand sexual dysfunction and sterility? No. So, its lying, it’s deceiving, it’s wrong.

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        3. Just_Me  🧙‍♀️ 🤐 🏁‏ @Pendles_Nina 5 Aug 2019
          Replying to @KodaScott1 @4th_WaveNow

          Grooming v. letting kids be kids. Know which I choose & have seen loads of 4/5yro boys putting on Disney princess dresses. We don’t put doubts in their minds, we just let them play. Anything else is brainwashing, abusive & totally unnecessary.

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