Honest question for those who say young kids' behavior is largely the result of socialization: How do you explain the detransitioned butch lesbians who talk about heavy disapproval they faced as tots for their "masculine" behaviors? Who socialized them to be so gender atypical?
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow
I think most of us have a mixture of personality traits, and these have been somewhat artificially divided into “masculine” and “feminine”, since here’s a huge overlap between sexes. The distribution of these traits, across sexes, follow a Bell curve. 1pic.twitter.com/dtl4R2MoWW
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Replying to @lascapigliata8 @4th_WaveNow
What's the source, & how did they determine which traits are masc or fem?
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There’s loads of research in this area, why don’t you research it yourself? Cordelia Fine and Prof Gina Rippon have published books and articles that discuss this in the kind of detail that’s needed to understand this. This is a good introhttp://sfonline.barnard.edu/neurogenderings/eight-things-you-need-to-know-about-sex-gender-brains-and-behavior-a-guide-for-academics-journalists-parents-gender-diversity-advocates-social-justice-warriors-tweeters-facebookers-and-ever/ …
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Replying to @lascapigliata8 @4th_WaveNow
I ask because I'm aware that researchers' classifications of traits as masc or fem are inconsistent, arbitrary, or culturally/ideologically influenced. I was wondering what the graphics are based on, like maybe BSRI/CT-GRI type inventories.
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4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow
What about this?https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1106266982498947072 …
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4thWaveNow @4th_WaveNowAcross cultures, women *tend* ON AVERAGE to prefer "people" jobs, men "thing" jobs. Says NOTHING about individuals, & is NOT a reason to discriminate in hiring. Why don't we value "people jobs" more--especially re: salaries? That's the key question. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23179757_Sex_Differences_in_Personality_Traits_and_Gender-Related_Occupational_Preferences_across_53_Nations_Testing_Evolutionary_and_Social-Environmental_Theories …2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
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Women’s choice of profession is a typical result of highly socially conditioned choice, even in the most egalitarian societies who still remain very make dominated. It is impossible to claim any of these findings are primarily biologically influenced.
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But in that cross-cultural study, societies with MORE gender equality show MORE sex differentiation in job preferences. How do you explain that?
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la scapigliata Retweeted la scapigliata
Here is how I explained it, and a the end of the thread is a well-researched article dispelling the myth of gender equality in Nordic countries.https://mobile.twitter.com/lascapigliata8/status/1157096143756648448 …
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la scapigliata @lascapigliata8The problem with the concept of “more gender-egalitarian societies” is that the aggregate scores used to rank certain countries above others don’t differentiate between primary and secondary sources of oppression. They’re all seen as equally important.Show this thread2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes -
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It's a matter of *relative" gender equality. Would you dispute that the situation of women in (say) Iran or Saudi Arabia is anywhere close to that of women in (say) Norway?
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Even granting that, it doesn't explain at all why in the relatively more equal societies the sex differences in job choice are MORE pronounced. More, not the same.
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