Honest question for those who say young kids' behavior is largely the result of socialization: How do you explain the detransitioned butch lesbians who talk about heavy disapproval they faced as tots for their "masculine" behaviors? Who socialized them to be so gender atypical?
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow
I'm agnostic about it, but there is something that doesn't make sense to me about the idea of innate masculinity & femininity, which is that the innate theory usually says that it's down to androgen levels, but that would mean that masculine girls have much higher levels of 1/
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Replying to @S_h_e_e_n_a_ @4th_WaveNow
2/ androgens than feminine boys. And yet, in the vast majority of cases, we're not talking about people with DSDs. So how could those very abnormal hormone levels affect only the brain, and not the reproductive system?
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It's not simply about androgens/estrogens. E.g. it has been shown that the mothers of gay feminine men have antigens that disable NLGN4Y, a protein involved in male brain development.
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(Well, of some, not all. There appear to be other kinds that work differently, but they are not as well-understood.)
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It's really interesting. Would that mean that if one son is gay & feminine, all his brothers would be? Or are there different things interacting, or could the antigens be present for one pregnancy but not all?
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Effect increases with each pregnancy such that younger brothers are statistically more likely to be gay. @BlanchardPhD
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @S_h_e_e_n_a_ and
Some mothers are just allergic to carrying male offspring ?

Now how would the environment contribute.
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