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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Aug 2019

      Interesting & provocative article by Michael Biggs: "The evidence is overwhelming. Transgenderism—a 'men’s rights movement'—has greater support from women than from men, & its success has depended on women in power who brandish their feminist credentials."https://quillette.com/2019/08/01/how-feminism-paved-the-way-for-transgenderism/ …

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    2. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      Missing is the role of feminism in Money's Reimer experiment. "Some second-wave feminists endorsed Money’s approach because its ideas about femininity and masculinity seemed malleable and because it suggested that the body does not imply a fixed destiny.https://www.heritage.org/gender/report/sex-gender-and-the-origin-the-culture-wars-intellectual-history …

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    3. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019
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      This is the third rail of sexual politics, but he also claimed: "(The evidence that sexual orientation has a biological basis is well-established.)" Dr. Paul McHugh disputes that in his Atlantis Report. Gender identity has piggybacked on the same claim.https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/part-one-sexual-orientation-sexuality-and-gender …

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    5. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019

      I said the origins of sexual orientation is the "third rail" of sexual politics. I won't debate it with you, and I respect your opinion on the subject. It's a nuclear war type debate, no winners and we all end up hurt in the exchange.

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    7. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019

      Again, I'm just critiquing the article and in doing so I'm pointing out that the author claims that sexual orientation is essentially settled science, but it's not according to people above my pay grade and education level. So he deserves criticism for that in my opinion.

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    9. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019

      I have hung out in gay venues and I have associated with plenty of gay men and women. I think I have more in common with gay men. But in my case, I also have to weigh it against and explore the way autogynephilia has programmed me to behave. I wasn't born that way in my opinion.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 3 Aug 2019
      Replying to @NotableDesister

      But is AGP considered to be inborn? Is there the kind of evidence we have for homosexuality? @BlanchardPhD has been involved in recent research re: effect of birth order on sexual orientation (to do with maternal immune system/response to certain enzymes I believe).

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        2. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BlanchardPhD

          Autogynephilia is described as a sexual orientation to my understanding? Blanchard can answer the question, but after reading everything, I'm inclined to believe AGP has been spun into a sexual orientation description to cleanse it from the paraphilias.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17951885 

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        3. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019
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          Elaborating: I get the vibe that Blanchard's theory was such a paraphilia bombshell and created so much uproar that it was later reframed as a sexual orientation to lessen the damage and appease the transsexuals like Lawrence. That's the way the whole thing strikes me.

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        2. InclusionNotRevolution‏ @TakeLuckSerious 3 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @NotableDesister @BlanchardPhD

          Interesting. Are there some innate traits, that if nurtured, make it more likely someone would be AGP, combined with environmental factors? I can't help but wonder if there has ever been a blind-from-birth AGP?

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        3. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019
          Replying to @TakeLuckSerious @4th_WaveNow @BlanchardPhD

          You could go all sorts of directions with this stuff. I'm more comfortable with and prefer the submissive role during sex. Isn't that associated with being a female trait? Should I claim it's biological? I've programmed myself to sit down to pee. See where I'm going with this?

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        2. James Shupe (Formerly Jamie Shupe)‏ @NotableDesister 3 Aug 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BlanchardPhD

          A similar parallel to my AGP problem is my BDSM problem, specifically masochism. It's as if that has become a sexual orientation for me also. So it's tough-going digging myself out of these two things. Both were learned behaviors that came from societal influences in my opinion.

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        3. Rory ( 🦄 💩 🐍)‏ @rorybowman 3 Aug 2019
          Replying to @NotableDesister @4th_WaveNow @BlanchardPhD

          Thanks for your brave honesty in these ongoing discussions @NotableDesister, and for staying willing to engage across traditional "party lines." Your courage and self-disclosure help me (among others) to understand the humanity and complexity of all these issues.

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