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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019

      4thWaveNow Retweeted ShootingStar

      4thWaveNow founder tweeting here today. When my daughter believed she was a man, I sought (like many parents do) detransitioners for wisdom. Their main message to me: We can't "fix" it. We don't have all the answers. Focus on/expose MDs & therapists who let this happen to us.https://twitter.com/turnthetide2018/status/1148241936404365312 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      ShootingStar @turnthetide2018
      btw surgeon and patient. I think pictures of that doctor I saw on both PPs FB page and BJs twitter feed are the answer. Let’s turn our focus to the enablers. To the money makers. To those who receive personal and professional gain from affirmation. To the journalists who are 10/
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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019

      But even as we continue to do just that, keep in mind that these professionals truly believe they're doing what's best for gender dysphoric kids/young adults. In some cases, they are. But too many have a blind spot the size of Mt. Everest about the ones they're actually harming.

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019

      It's not necessary to demonize affirmative gender specialist to call them to account. They aren't ogres. Med-psych professionals have gone down the wrong road many times in history--not because they were awful people, but because they lost perspective; developed tunnel vision.

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019

      A lot of these providers are caught up in the exhilarating sweep of identity politics, just like their young clients (& their parents). The Internet/social media has turbocharged this historical moment, & a particular group of extremist trans activists have seized the narrative.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019
      Replying to @Mumma__Bear

      Yes some commit ethical breaches (& they need pointing out). But they don't see it; they think they're doing "god's work" in the broadest sense. Some have fallen prey to confirmation bias, even "pathological altruism." See this 2015 post for more on that. https://4thwavenow.com/2015/07/27/two-recent-survey-studies-by-dr-johanna-olson-biases-assumptions-and-the-medical-transitioning-of-young-people/ …

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    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019
      Replying to @Mumma__Bear

      Very few human beings are actually sociopaths who MEAN to harm others. (They exist, but are rare.) What I'm pointing to is the (possible) psychology that may contribute to their blind spots. Greed is a powerful motivator, but most people don't consciously harm others for a buck.

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    9. NWM  🌻 🎗 🇺🇸‏ @notworthmessing 8 Jul 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Mumma__Bear

      They need help seeing the forest for the trees. Medical board reviews won’t happen without evidence of harm, which can only be done by participation of detransitioners. Otherwise as long as the client is happy and gets what they paid for, fast & easy transitioning continues.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 8 Jul 2019
      Replying to @notworthmessing @Mumma__Bear

      Exactly. Which is why the voices of detransitioners--more and more of them appear every day, getting louder and louder--who **themselves** say they were harmed, are essential. They hold the key to slowing the train down. Critical mass is starting to accumulate.

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        1. Delph‏ @delphzzzz 8 Jul 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @notworthmessing @Mumma__Bear

          Sadly though the medical profession isn’t good at listening to patients. Look how many women say they find cervical smears painful, meanwhile the official line is “it doesn’t hurt”. They only really take notice when there is a stream of published studies saying the same thing.

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