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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

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      1/ Brie's tweet pretty well encapsulates the 4thWaveNow position (as well as her own personal views). And: https://twitter.com/briejnm/status/1147882549395349505 …

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

      2/ The evidence for social contagion contributing to trans-identification for some kids/teens (and/or their parents) is becoming too overwhelming to ignore. And

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      • Jessie L. Mannisto Desirre Andrews Shelley's Cloud #Genderfree 🏁 🇪🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Karen Lebens 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿ChanaEstherDafna🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 NWM 🌻🎗🇺🇸 Liza Vespi (Bad Woman) ugly_xo David Pasko_OCT 光復香港時代革命
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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          3/ Eventually (it could be soon, it may be years) it will be broadly recognized by the medical-psychological establishment that some youth have undergone medical interventions in error and appropriate "gatekeeping" will be reinstated. And

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          4/ We will return to where we were only a few short years ago, when only extreme, carefully assessed cases of gender dysphoria will be appropriate for medical intervention. And

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          5/ It's unrealistic to think all med intervention for youth will disappear or (even less likely) be outlawed. Pandora's Box was opened when the Amsterdam group introduced puberty blockers to their rigorously assessed clients. Closing the box entirely is unlikely to happen. And

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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          6/ What is realistic: Medical transition for youth will be rare again, and desistance will no longer be a dirty word. Things are so warped now that activists claim it's "transphobic" if a kid finds peace in her own skin & avoids a life as a permanent medical patient.

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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          7/ 4thWaveNow has been criticized for not joining or promoting campaigns which aim to abolish all such medical intervention. Hopefully this thread helps explain why we remain mostly independent in our efforts and what we believe to be realistic and therefore achievable goals.

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        7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          8/ Like Brie, 4thWaveNow as an entity (a small group of parent-moderators, researchers and writers) is open to reasoned discussion with (almost) anyone who wants to talk with us in good faith. We are not a monolith; our core group holds compatible but not always identical views.

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        8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 7 Jul 2019

          9/ Likewise, we publish articles on http://4thWaveNow.com  by a fairly diverse group of writers. Don't assume "4thWaveNow" as a whole agrees with every word written in every article (just as you wouldn't assume the editors of a magazine agree with every word they publish).

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