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    4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Jun 2019

    4thWaveNow Retweeted Naomi O'Leary

    Important correction to the 17-year-old euthanasia story: It is FALSE. She asked for but did not receive that service, and later effectively ended her own life by refusing food and liquid.https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1136196382585438208 …

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    Naomi O'LearyVerified account @NaomiOhReally
    I spoke to Paul Bolwerk, a reporter who has been covering the story for @DeGelderlander since 2018. Noa Pothoven had been severely ill with anorexia and other conditions for some time. Without telling her parents, she sought and was refused euthanasia https://www.gelderlander.nl/home/noa-16-uit-arnhem-is-nu-al-klaar-met-haar-verwoeste-leven~a01a7bd1/ …
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      2. Intrepid‏ @Intrepid4Eva 5 Jun 2019
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow

        I understand the distinction you’re making ... and yet they let her starve herself to death. Haven’t they heard of the cognitive impairments caused by starvation?

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      3. Tenino‏ @tenin0 5 Jun 2019
        Replying to @Intrepid4Eva @4th_WaveNow

        @SashaLPC I don't know if it's still true, but Anorexia used to have one of the highest mortality rates of all psychiatric disorders. It's complicated.

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      2. Stella O'Malley‏ @stellaomalley3 5 Jun 2019
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow

        It could be argued that it was a passive form of euthanasia. I would hope that a 17-year-old in Ireland or England would be force-fed in these circumstances.

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      3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Jun 2019
        Replying to @stellaomalley3

        Right--whether it was right to allow her to end her own life that way is definitely something to discuss. But the false reporting was that the State participated in ending her life via their euthanasia program.

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      2. la scapigliata‏ @lascapigliata8 5 Jun 2019
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        It appears that she was repeatedly traumatised in medical care, refused ECT treatment and allowed by doctors to starve to death, which is every bit as unethical if not more so. https://mobile.twitter.com/pas_jeff/status/1136239486352920577 …

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      2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Jun 2019
        Replying to @dinahbrand2

        She was far too young to make that decision, but it wasn't euthanasia. What is the Parsons case?

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      1. Peachyoghurt Genderfree‏ @Peachyoghurt_YT 5 Jun 2019
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        Of course it's false. People can only get euthanasia if they got EVERY help available. A request can take years because of this and most don't get euthanasia.

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      1. Lorac9  👵 ♀️ 🕸‏ @Lorac910 6 Jun 2019
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        And yet, she is dead.

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