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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

      1. Thread: Among many other things, Stanford pediatric endocrinologist Tandy Aye says it's good to perform genital surgery on under-18 adolescents because they've already been sterilized by puberty blockers followed by cross-sex hormones.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L240CPOJ6FM&feature=youtu.be …

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

      2. “Avery’s testes never developed, so her ability to be a biological parent has been eliminated. Her testes are nonfunctional.” Eliminated.pic.twitter.com/7pSibumswY

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

      4. ..."nonfunctional organs, like an appendix." An adolescent's penis and testes = appendixpic.twitter.com/xeRnToPbfZ

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          5. The thing is, under-18 surgeries are **already** being done in the US. Jazz is the best-known example, but there have been others, as outlined in this 2017 journal article, "contravening the WPATH standards of care." http://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(17)30108-X/pdf …pic.twitter.com/EdbGJLGLbr

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          6. Some reactions from the same article, wherein some **gender surgeons** express grave doubts about the "cowboys and cowgirls" cashing in on genital surgeries for minors, because the "money is flowing" to "suck people in."pic.twitter.com/71WymieXCu

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          7. Some of these gender surgeons even mention social contagion as a possible factor in the minor-medical-transition trend. "So that would be my concern," says one. "Is it because it's popular now?" Another refers to these adolescents as "guinea pigs."pic.twitter.com/kukA9qE6F5

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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          8. Back to Dr. Aye's TED Talk: She acknowledges these are "very complex surgeries" requiring "very specific pre- and post-operative care" (interesting admission, given her earlier comparison of the removal of puberty-blocked genitalia to a simple appendectomy), therefore...pic.twitter.com/1HrpibrLcH

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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          9. ...Let high school kids have SRS so parents can help oversee aftercare, to "prevent corrective surgeries later" and help with the "exercises" (aka neovaginal dilation). The implication? They're too young to handle all of this on their own (but not too young to consent to SRS).pic.twitter.com/dsPEMe9jti

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        7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          10. Where have we heard this before? In the same "Age is Just a Number" journal article. After all, freshman college students can be "distracted by new experiences" and have "busy lifestyles" that make it difficult for them to "adhere to their dilation schedule."pic.twitter.com/LdD2Jvz4X7

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        8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          11. So it's all internally consistent, logical in context: Puberty blockers+cross hormones=permanent sterilization=nonfunctional genitalia. Therefore, do SRS before age 18 on useless organs, while mom & dad can help kid adhere to dilation schedule. Iatrogenic medicine in action.

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        9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2019

          12. What of the fact that in previous times, before this Age of the Trans Child, most of such dysphoric kids were allowed to experience natural puberty, and many grew up to be untampered-with gay or lesbian adults? Ask Dr. Aye.

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        1. thou cynical  🧙🏽‍♀️ 💜 🤍 💚‏ @thoucynical_ 21 Apr 2019
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          I think the appendix has been seen to have some function in recent years. Same with tonsils and gallbladders. Surgeons aren't supposed to remove them preemptively. But when you're a scalpel, every problem can be solved with cuts.

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        1. Darrel Harb‏ @HARBDARREL 4 Dec 2019
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          Her point is that the function of the genitals has already been destroyed by puberty blockers. And she's right. We're rightly horrified by pre-adult SRS but let's not pass over the horror of puberty blockers. This is how they move the Overton window.

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