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    3. EZ‏ @ZaneEmma 13 Apr 2019
      Replying to @briejnm @SashaLPC

      I am developing a better sense of what NOT to do, but still don't really know what TO DO, esp since my child is now in college. Don't know how any relationship can stay strong through this with an older kid, even if OK on the surface. If you don't support it, you are the enemy.

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    5. EZ‏ @ZaneEmma 14 Apr 2019
      Replying to @Mumma__Bear @SashaLPC @PiqueResProject

      Same story here. All my conversations with desisters and detransitioners lead to the same conclusion: There is NOTHING their parents could have said or done, they had to be ready on their own timeline. And worse, saying something entrenches them further. But so tempting....

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    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Apr 2019
      Replying to @briejnm @ZaneEmma and

      There is no substitute for getting offline and out into nature, with new responsibilities, hard work (or play!), and new friends. It’s hard to change course if everyone around you is also in the same rut.

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    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Apr 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZaneEmma and

      There's no magic answer--differs for every family. I don't entirely agree one should totally avoid "gender critical" info/resources. Exposure to detransitioner blogs/videos can be important, even if not received w/ total openness at the time. Sometimes impact is realized later.

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    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Apr 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZaneEmma and

      And there's a difference between constant haranguing/lecturing and saying a few pithy things at the right moment. The idea that parents should never say what THEY believe while their kids are mainlining only one viewpoint 24-7 via their phones--how is that effective?

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Apr 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZaneEmma and

      Did YOU receive your parents' advice well as a young person? But did you ever think about it later, as an adult, & realize how meaningful & often accurate it actually was? Kids NEED their parents to express their views, to be a rock in the storm; we aren't irrelevant bystanders.

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        2. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 14 Apr 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZaneEmma and

          I asked questions & shared info with my daughter too (in the beginning more so than the end). I learned to not constantly discuss this topic, became skilled at biting my tongue. Tried to navigate carefully so that we maintained a good relationship.

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        3. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 14 Apr 2019
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          But I thought it was important to counteract falsehoods, spark critical thinking. At times my daughter was frustrated by this, but she admitted that I made her think. Not sure I'd do it any differently if I had to do it over. Of course, responses should be tailored to our kids.

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        2. ShootingStar‏ @turnthetide2018 14 Apr 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZaneEmma and

          I think the difference is if my parents said “spend less time socializing and more on homework”, any adult in my life would have agreed and reinforced this message. In my son’s case, he had trusted adults telling him we were abusive. It was hard to give him our thoughts when

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        3. ShootingStar‏ @turnthetide2018 14 Apr 2019
          Replying to @turnthetide2018 @4th_WaveNow and

          every single time it led to renewed affirmation by his supporters. We learned to stay quiet even though it went against every instinct we had as his parents. Again, I would certainly change many things about how we handled this, and more discussions is the top change we’d make.

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