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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Apr 2019

      9-year-old "looks like a boy" but "says she's a girl." Won't discuss gender with her therapist. No one (so far) suggests maybe the child doesn't NEED gender therapy or education? Instead, resources for trans kids are offered--including from Gender Spectrum.pic.twitter.com/GF5o3iCxzb

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    2. Mark Amery‏ @XplodingCabbage 12 Apr 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      Any idea how common this is? Any idea of a rigorous, principled way of finding out? I agree this is horrible, but the degree of political attention it deserves differs depending upon whether the views behind this are becoming widespread or are an aberration.

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Apr 2019
      Replying to @XplodingCabbage

      Far too common, from what we've seen. Parents are being encouraged to monitor for gender-atypical behavior in their kids. Not necessarily to define them as "trans," but that monitoring can lead to this kind of groupthink--where others jump in to suggest trans-kid resources.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Apr 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @XplodingCabbage

      Isn't this advising parents to monitor for "gender messages," even in very young children? What is the impact of all this monitoring? https://vimeo.com/185149379 

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        1. Helen HH‏ @HelenHighwatr 12 Apr 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @XplodingCabbage

          So utterly predictable

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        2. Mark Amery‏ @XplodingCabbage 12 Apr 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow

          Sure, but that doesn't seem inherently sinister to me? The original Tweet above involved (at least as I first read it - I see now it's open to interpretation) parents coercing a kid into therapy for not conforming to gender stereotypes. This is nothing like that.

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        3. Mark Amery‏ @XplodingCabbage 12 Apr 2019
          Replying to @XplodingCabbage @4th_WaveNow

          I find the video silly, but the main cues it suggested heeding were the kid's freely stated opinions. Even hardcore social conservatives who object to the whole notion of transexuality should see a moral gulf between listening to the kid and overruling their own stated identity.

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