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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

      1. LONG THREAD: Testosterone for nonbinary 13-year-olds, in the latest batch of leaked posts from the affirmative parent group. In several threads, multiple mothers appear to claim that Dr. Olson-Kennedy is prescribing T to middle schoolers, in some cases without blockers first.

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

      2. But first, let's set the stage. In 2017, Olson-Kennedy published a study on cross-sex hormones administered to youth as young as 12. Some in the study cohort believed themselves to be "gender queer" or "bigender."pic.twitter.com/wuy2uYKMr1

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

      3. Dr. Olson-Kennedy, speaking at a symposium at the 2017 USPATH conference, endorsed the idea of tinkering with the endocrine systems of nonbinary/genderfluid youth. Below article links to source audio from that event.https://4thwavenow.com/2017/08/04/no-menses-no-mustache-gender-doctor-touts-nonbinary-hormones-surgery-for-self-sacrificing-youth/ …

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

      4. Based on what Olson-Kennedy said herself at USPATH 2017, the claims made by mothers in the FB group do not see, particularly surprising. You can hear her remarks for yourself in the audio link here: https://vimeo.com/228431243 pic.twitter.com/YDIEnpjeMt

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

      5. As you view the following tweets, bear in mind that “son” refers to female-born. Our usual caveat: We share this info not to attack well-meaning parents. but to highlight the now-normalized practice of certain US gender docs giving cross-sex hormones to young teens.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

      6. Mother of 13-year-old plans to consult with Dr. JOK, but expresses some qualms about starting T, since the teen is nonbinary--the “old saw about making life decisions so young” notwithstanding. Notice also the reference to Gender Spectrum.pic.twitter.com/qzlQPHPC80

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          7. Gender Spectrum is the US equivalent of UK orgs Mermaids and Gendered Intelligence. The organization hosts conferences, authored a school guidance document with he US National Education Association, and more. See this thread for detail.https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1096134967824928768.html …

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          8. Other parents in the FB group chime in about 13-yr-olds on T, some blocked beforehand, some not. There is also discussion about a well known side-effect of testosterone.pic.twitter.com/aORXUxV9tS

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          9. A few weeks later, the original poster is in LA and ready to see Dr. Jo, but still voices lingering concerns about her nonbinary 13-yr-old going on T.pic.twitter.com/TPJ1y0VZZH

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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          10. Parents respond with anecdotes re: their nonbinary kids on hormones. What they say echos the remarks by Dr. Olson-Kennedy herself, discussed in tweets 3 & 4 above (in this thread). Gender Odyssey, another influential US group, is mentioned, along with the "rock star" MD.pic.twitter.com/YnO0O9CwNA

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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          11. Dresses and heels with binders for some "afabs," the “genderbread person"-- and be sure to go to Gender Spectrum for more resources. Maybe try yoga, mama bear, to understand better.pic.twitter.com/YYdIOhXe3u

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        7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          12. More 13 and 14 year olds on T, including one enby who wants to “present masculine but not too masculine,” and T is an important part of that. Still, one mother frets that she is still “questioning everything.”pic.twitter.com/tryoFTsOif

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        8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          13. Again, we stress: These well-meaning parents are not out of the mainstream. A “touch of testosterone” is de rigeur nowadays, according to a story last year in the Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/when-kids-come-in-saying-they-are-transgender-or-no-gender-these-doctors-try-to-help/2018/01/19/f635e5fa-dac0-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.0bb8e8be6cf9 …pic.twitter.com/AdundMniIr

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        9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          14. Of course, the Post article doesn't get into or raise questions about the increasingly younger "afabs" who are seeking these boutique treatments. (You would think the reporters might delve a bit more, but you'd be thinking wrong.)

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        10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          15. Back to the leaked posts, a parent reports her ftm child wears a binder by day, and "the most beautiful" bra by night.pic.twitter.com/zufo6TYDbQ

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        11. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          16. It’s not just kids imbibing stuff on social media. Parents are also evidently relying on YouTube videos by nonbinary youth for guidance. “What a way to mess with a parent’s head…as they try to understand all genders.”pic.twitter.com/IiHs2xblK5

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        12. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Mar 2019

          17. “It’s only confusing if we can’t give up the binary—right?” Why are the MSM evidently so uninterested in investigating the phenom of young "nonbinary" teens (too young to get a tattoo) being prescribed T by celebrity gender doctors? Many of the effects of T are irreversible.pic.twitter.com/mtCoQ4HpEo

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