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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Mar 2019

      4thWaveNow Retweeted

      Brie was a member of the affirmative parents' group and discusses her experiences in this thread. https://twitter.com/briejnm/status/1106387148704354304 …

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    2. Kari jacobson‏ @Karij52367Kari 14 Mar 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      I am a member of this group. I am disgusted by the nerve of you enlisting someone to take screenshots of people’s PRIVATE thoughts and concerns and blast it on the internet. But you know what they say....karma is a bitch

      5 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Mar 2019
      Replying to @Karij52367Kari

      4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

      So, you're choosing to reveal yourself on social media. In contrast, we deliberately did not reveal parents' names or identifying details. Why don't you engage w/ the content of what was posted vs. just being outraged? For instance, your thoughts on this?https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1105109679171162113 …

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      4thWaveNow @4th_WaveNow
      17. "Time to dive in w/a packer," even though the child since age 4 (!?) has said they are just a "boy with a vagina." Notice how other parents discourage acceptance of a preschooler's natural anatomy & push for the packer--**even when the child herself is not in distress.** pic.twitter.com/NkPFzbkKcU
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    4. Kari jacobson‏ @Karij52367Kari 15 Mar 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      The difference is that I’m out. My daughter is out. And I’m the one who made the choice. No matter what you may think, the ends doesn’t justify the means.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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    6. Kari jacobson‏ @Karij52367Kari 15 Mar 2019
      Replying to @animaloverlords @OrchidThief @4th_WaveNow

      I agree that trans kids need protected. I disagree on how it’s gone about.

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    8. Kari jacobson‏ @Karij52367Kari 15 Mar 2019
      Replying to @animaloverlords @OrchidThief @4th_WaveNow

      Put the same emphasis on kids not being vaccinated. Or on the funds that are being eliminated from our schools. But mostly, if you’re (royal you) going to be a dissenting opinion or scream you opinion from the rafters, have some class. Be open to discussion

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Mar 2019
      Replying to @Karij52367Kari @OrchidThief

      Problem is, parents typified by your forum are told NOT to discuss ideas that aren't approved by activists. Ppl banned merely for asking questions. "Your side" has the big mouthpiece in society, & others with a dog in the fight have been begging for discussion--for years.

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Mar 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Karij52367Kari @OrchidThief

          4thWaveNow Retweeted Renee Gardner

          We see @BJontry was kicked out of your group for wrongthink. Her daughter has desisted. What does it say that the group brooks no disagreement & seems to see desistence as a threat to be avoided?Why so much investment in a likely future of drugs/surgeries?https://twitter.com/LavenderVerse/status/1106528754875187200 …

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          Renee Gardner @LavenderVerse
          Brie's reasonable thoughts & questions were deemed dangerous & resulted in her being thrown out of a gender affirmative parent forum. An example of the significant pressure on parents to unquestioningly accept that their kids are trans & need to medically transition. https://twitter.com/briejnm/status/1106387149572567040 …
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        3. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 15 Mar 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Karij52367Kari @OrchidThief

          There are significant health risks associated with medical transition. It's sensible to avoid hormones & surgeries if possible. I supported my daughter while she IDed as trans without gender affirmation & medical interventions. She desisted & is grateful I took this approach.

          1 reply 2 retweets 18 likes
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        1. Kari jacobson‏ @Karij52367Kari 15 Mar 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @OrchidThief

          It’s not “my group”. I am a member of the group. I have never been banned for disagreeing or dissenting. Can only speak to my experience, but disagree that it justifies what you’ve done

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