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    1. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 6 Feb 2019

      This UK bullshit w/police getting called over tweets is reinforcing my belief that it's a mistake to equate supporting trans *people* and *rights* with believing in specific, oft-questionable ontological/philosophical claims about gender (ID)/sex/etc. Too radical, too online.

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    2. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 6 Feb 2019

      Despite claims to the contrary, liberals aren't that split on basic trans-rights questions. They ARE deeply split on all the philosophical/ontological stuff getting built out from that fight, which is increasingly being portrayed as a prerequisite for *actually* being pro-trans.

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    3. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 6 Feb 2019

      If you make your core message "Trans people exist and deserve to be treated with dignity," you'll be able to (slowly) convince anyone who gets to know a trans person or 2 (see the rapid uptick in gay-rights acceptance). If you make your core message "Biological sex isn't real,"

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    4. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal 6 Feb 2019

      or focus on other radical claims that are, frankly, often pretty half-baked, you risk completely turning off undecided people. Plus you're throwing under the bus the MANY (maybe majority of) trans people who themselves have rather vanilla/moderate views on sex/gednder/etc.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Feb 2019

      And too often women and girls are the ones paying the price--including a growing number of lesbians who regret transitioning. Virtue signaling about trans rights, as if it's somehow equivalent to the earlier LG rights movement, isn't enough. A much more nuanced approach is needed

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Feb 2019
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      It's not just "philosophical" arguments about the meaning of gender and sex. There are real-world unintended consequences to the liberal embrace of trans rights--again, with females bearing the brunt. In the UK some liberals are starting to see this. In the US--not so much.

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        1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Feb 2019
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          4thWaveNow Retweeted TransgenderTrend

          For instance: This is not a matter of philosophical/ontological debates. Nor is it a question of denying human rights to trans ppl. It's about negative impacts on women/girls/FTMs, a subject no liberal media outlet in the US will cover.https://twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1093182553039794182 …

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          "In retrospect, that group was a breeding ground for predators and narcissistic trans males, with trans females discouraged from pointing this out on account of their “masc privilege”." @gnc_centric's account reflects a common story from trans females https://4thwavenow.com/2019/01/26/my-trans-youth-group-experience-with-morgan-page/ …
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