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    1. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @LavenderVerse @4th_WaveNow

      I hope Zinnia realizes that many parents state their rapid-onset trans-IDing kids rewrite their histories to align with their new identities. And that their kids are often upset by their parents' reluctance to start medical interventions. This is part of the ROGD phenomenon. /3

      4 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @LavenderVerse @4th_WaveNow

      Ideally, "more research" on ROGD would include interviewing young people who fit the rapid-onset profile along with a holistic examination of them: prior mental health issues, peer influence, family member insights, etc. /4

      1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @LavenderVerse

      4thWaveNow Retweeted jesse

      Yeah, something tells me they aren't too interested in talking to those young people, though.https://twitter.com/dogcalledbambi/status/1083861881658490880 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      jesse @dogcalledbambi
      trans people: UM ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE EXPERIENCED ROGD IS FAKE BC I DONT LIKE THE FACT THIS STUDY EXISTS!!!! TERF! https://twitter.com/ZJemptv/status/1083837383211143168 …
      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    4. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      Zinnia and crew have spent so much time decrying that ROGD doesn't exist, it's highly unlikely that they'd suddenly come to their senses and learn from desisters/detransitioners who confirm that it does.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @LavenderVerse

      In contrast, those who've observed or lived ROGD don't deny the existence of other kinds of gender dysphoria. But ZJ and acolytes screech and screech that ROGD "doesn't exist", while studiously ignoring those who say they experienced it. No bias there.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      On one side people admit to there being different kinds of gender dysphoria, requiring different kinds of treatment. But Zinnia et al seem to desperately cling to the idea that there are no distinctions and attempt to discredit all contradictory research/researchers.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Zinnia Jones‏Verified account @ZJemptv 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @LavenderVerse @4th_WaveNow

      Yo, I've literally pointed out at length that late-onset gender dysphoria is already a thing that's been recognized for decades, and that late-onset dysphoria in adolescent AFABs has been covered in previous literature.https://genderanalysis.net/2018/12/lisa-littman-cites-edwards-leeper-spack-2012-in-her-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-study-but-did-she-read-it/ …

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @ZJemptv @LavenderVerse

      4thWaveNow Retweeted Ray Blanchard

      We know you think Blanchard is the Devil Incarnate, but we'll defer to his decades of research over your ROGD-IS-NOT-A-THING!!!https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1083381311182651392 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      Ray Blanchard @BlanchardPhD
      The phrase "rapid onset gender dysphoria" is necessary to denote the sudden appearance of trans ideation in teens exposed to trans peers on-line or at school. "Late-onset" has been used for decades to denote slow-growing gender dysphoria that manifests to others in adulthood.
      4 replies 3 retweets 3 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZJemptv @LavenderVerse

      4thWaveNow Retweeted jesse

      Also, we noticed you and your team of experts ignore (every time) actual women who say they had ROGD.https://twitter.com/dogcalledbambi/status/1083861739261825025 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      jesse @dogcalledbambi
      my @ is @dogcalledbambi feel free to ask me about the ROGD any time https://twitter.com/Xena_Brand/status/1083838779025182721 …
      1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZJemptv @LavenderVerse

      4thWaveNow Retweeted Freack 🗿

      https://twitter.com/coffee_lad/status/1083594636923363333 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      Freack 🗿 @coffee_lad
      Replying to @ZJemptv
      I transitioned and detransitioned, something like Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria actually describes my life experience. There are problems with the original study, but why are you so invested in saying I do not exist?
      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZJemptv @LavenderVerse

      4thWaveNow Retweeted helena

      https://twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1062015628847005696 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      helena @lacroicsz
      Erasing the voices of people who experienced something =/= “debunking” it #ROGD
      11:40 AM - 12 Jan 2019
      • 1 Retweet
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      • Helen Staniland Siún Ní Mhurchú Skeptical Mom Renee Gardner helena
      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZJemptv @LavenderVerse

          But hey, just keep coming into our threads trumpeting your moral & scientific superiority. We'll still be over here, talking about the impact of extremist trans activism on girls & women. And to the extent you attack them and us, we'll talk about you too. https://4thwavenow.com/2018/01/18/i-hated-her-guts-at-the-time-a-trans-desister-and-her-mom-tell-their-story/ …pic.twitter.com/qPQP6Ny5uT

          1 reply 8 retweets 16 likes
        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Jan 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ZJemptv @LavenderVerse

          With every tweet, every blog post you produce smearing us, our families, and the one researcher who dared to BEGIN to study what's happening to so many females, you reveal your own character--and show why we say MTF activists like you haven't a clue about the female experience.

          4 replies 4 retweets 13 likes
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