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    2. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 3 Jan 2019

      Popularity is nice, but has never been my goal. Fidelity to the science is. Adding the P amounts to no such thing. All I point out is the rule same rule applies to all of us: Do whatever posts no harm to anyone. No one needs to be stigmatized for following that rule.

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @my_real_name

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      But you still haven't explained why the P belongs with the LGB. Not a trick question. https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1080670244681609217 … .

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      Replying to @thehomoarchy @JamesCantorPhD @virpeds
      1/ What exactly is accomplished by tacking on every orientation to LGB? Even the "T" makes no sense; trans activists themselves say gender ID has nothing to do w/sexual orientation. Why must LGB serve as a catchall for any and all (non hetero?) sexual interests? In fact...
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    4. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @my_real_name

      To me, "the list" is everyone who is sexually atypical. What can be acted out safely/consensually is a different story. Adding the P (the sexual attraction pattern) does not condone the behaviour it motivates. I point out only there is nothing gained by humiliating these ppl.

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    6. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 3 Jan 2019

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    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @my_real_name

      Dr. Cantor, this isn't a contest about expertise. It's a discussion about the societal & political impact of fusing the LG community/movement w/ pedophiles. Those with most to lose don't have to be experts on pedophilia to have something intelligent to contribute.

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    8. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @my_real_name

      They don't. But they do need to make argument based on something other than raw emotion. People believe that it is their very condemnation that keeps people from doing harm. The entire field of social psychology says that's wrong.

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    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @my_real_name

      It's mixing two different issues: (1) Condemnation and (2) an obligation that lesbians & gay men should welcome all who have atypical sexual interests into their movement. One could reject (1) but still not want (2).

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    10. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @my_real_name

      I'm sure there are/will be such people. But it is hypocritical nonetheless.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 3 Jan 2019
      Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @my_real_name

      Again: By your logic,the LG movement/community should also welcome ppl into sex w/animals or dead bodies--whether they act on it or not. It's exactly the same reasoning. The cost to LG ppl for that level of inclusion would be huge. Why should they pay that cost?

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        2. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 3 Jan 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @my_real_name

          No. And I am now repeating myself. I am asking simply for acknowledging that no one asks for what they are interested in, and even though they cannot all be acted out, there is no point to stigmatizing having been born with the attraction pattern.

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        3. Jules  🇨🇦‏ @jpaulson49 3 Jan 2019
          Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @4th_WaveNow @my_real_name

          Where is the proof people are born with a sexual attraction to children? That it didn't develop due to environmental factors like sexual abuse or trauma? There's not even a consensus on people being born with same sex attraction. https://www.aoiusa.org/american-psychological-association-course-correction-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity-not-fixed-after-all/ …

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