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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Dec 2018

      4thWaveNow Retweeted

      Amanda often asserts that her family's experience is the only one possible when it comes to trans identification. But neither she, nor the MTF who wrote the article Amanda is praising, know anything about the families she repeatedly judges. A little humility would go a long way. https://twitter.com/MavenOfMayhem/status/1073583795989671936 …

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    2. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      Well now, isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black?! You take up a position that because you were able to scare your trans youth back into the closet, the original condition must not exist. Amanda shares *her* family’s experience. It doesn’t align with the narrative you want.

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    3. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
      Replying to @CirqueAmy @4th_WaveNow

      The reality is that some people are transgender. Some people recognize this early in their lives, and some are able to express this truth to those around them. This takes a tremendous amount of self-awareness and courage — beyond the typical for a young person.

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    4. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
      Replying to @CirqueAmy @4th_WaveNow

      Your success in getting some of those youth to reverse course is less about proving that they weren’t experiencing the condition, and more about attacking the self-awareness & courage until self-preservation & insecurity (abundant in youth) kick in & they return to the closet.

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Dec 2018
      Replying to @CirqueAmy

      Predictable response. There are more & more young adult desisters/detransitioners, speaking for themselves, on the Internet. It's your choice to ignore their experiences & pretend this is all about parents forcing them to do anything (which is impossible anyway).

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    6. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      And there are even more youth *and* adults speaking up about their experiences during their childhood and how scared they were to speak their truth because they had no expectation of being supported by their families. But you go on and choose to ignore *those*.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    7. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
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      As far as parents forcing their kids into something? If you think that is impossible, I wonder how much you know about parenting. I can force my daughter to do lots of things, simply by threatening to take away her phone. How much more could a parent do if they threatened ...

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    8. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
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      ... to withhold food and shelter, to withhold the very love that *every* child needs and craves? And btw, attack me all you want - I don’t have a closet to run back into, and I’ll stand and fight for those who can’t. Bring it.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Dec 2018
      Replying to @CirqueAmy

      The only one doing the attacking is you. No one we support is withholding love, food, and shelter from their kids. You don't have a clue about the people you're attempting to defame, and you aren't fighting for our kids--we are. Nothing more to say to you on the matter.

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        2. Amy M  🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️Trans Liberation Now 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈‏ @CirqueAmy 15 Dec 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow

          Perhaps you don’t endorse those who kick their kids out of the house for being trans, but they sure say the same things that you say about their trans teens. So many of the “facts” you use to justify your position aren’t actually true, but that doesn’t keep you from using them.pic.twitter.com/rZorZouwQr

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 15 Dec 2018
          Replying to @CirqueAmy

          Oh look--another trans activist who resorts to spurious (and libelous) Nazi or white supremacist comparisons. You're a dime a dozen. Muted.

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