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    1. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 2 Dec 2018

      Renee Gardner Retweeted Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠

      Thread. These doctors (a resident in psychiatry, an OB/GYN, & a pediatric oncologist) seem unable to consider that ROGD is a real phenomenon impacting the health & well-being of many teens/young adults. They make up reasons to dismiss our valid concerns.https://twitter.com/jack_turban/status/1068619240884879364 …

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      Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠Verified account @jack_turban
      Replying to @DrJackBrz @BirthControlDoc @PsychToday
      As a side note - we’re almost certain these are bots, yes?
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    2. Jack Brzezinski‏ @DrJackBrz 2 Dec 2018
      Replying to @LavenderVerse

      Cool of you to not tag the people you're talking about. I can't speak for the other two but I don't know nearly enough about ROGD to have an opinion on it. My opinions are about the methodology of that one study (and open access journals). Is there a stronger study out there?

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    4. Jack Brzezinski‏ @DrJackBrz 2 Dec 2018
      Replying to @briejnm @LavenderVerse

      I don't see other links in that thread? Only to the one article (which itself references Littman). There is a methodological issue with a self-selected population reporting on their interpretation of somebody else's symptoms. Also, please tag people you're calling out

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    6. Jack Brzezinski‏ @DrJackBrz 2 Dec 2018
      Replying to @briejnm @LavenderVerse

      Hold on... is this whole argument just about whether more natal girls are going to transgender clinics than natal boys? The studies you're linking here seem to mostly show that in their data, right? But why interpret those data to mean that this is a transient thing?

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Dec 2018
      Replying to @DrJackBrz @LavenderVerse

      Hi from one of the "bots" who runs our Twitter account. We don't yet know what longterm persistence rate will be in this new population of females, do we? Won't know for decades. We DO know there are signs of social contagion. Why do so many like you want deny that possibility?

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Dec 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrJackBrz @LavenderVerse

          Littman never said her study was the be-all, end-all. It's an initial foray into investigating the phenomenon. Criticize her work, sure. But wouldn't the more open-minded response be "we need more research" to see whether her findings have a basis?

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        3. Jack Brzezinski‏ @DrJackBrz 2 Dec 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LavenderVerse

          So sure - provide better studies. I'm always open to that. But until the studies are there, you can't claim that there's clear evidence for this phenomenon. I'm not sure if you are doing that or not and that's a major problem for me... the language used is never quite clear.

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        2. Jack Brzezinski‏ @DrJackBrz 2 Dec 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LavenderVerse

          I don't think you're reading what I've actually written, @4th_WaveNow. I never said the word "bot" nor have I denied anything. Why should I engage with you if you seem to want to put words in my mouth?

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Dec 2018
          Replying to @DrJackBrz @LavenderVerse

          Sorry, the "bot" part was responding to the earlier comment by someone else, not you. To your earlier point, there isn't a stronger study on ROGD but Littman herself calls for one. Hers is an initial descriptive study based, yes, on parental reports. Obviously more is needed.

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