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    1. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @4th_WaveNow

      Ofc binning blank slatism in sex differences also helps torpedo the TRA schtick about magic inner gender essence that has no reference to physical being. It’s a dilemma.

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    2. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @4th_WaveNow

      The radfem description of the ways social gender gets used aggressively to control women is hugely important. I’d love to hear from feminists thinking about with how that can be squared with the science that strongly suggests normative sex diffs have a basis in fact.

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    3. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @4th_WaveNow

      At the moment it feels slightly like feminists want the support of science to challenge gender ideology but are less keen when it comes to considering the impact on feminism of the scientific arguments for binning blank slatism. Hopefully I’m reading the wrong feminists?

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    4. The Truth is Real‏ @RealAdamB1 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @4th_WaveNow

      @mrkhtake2 would be interested in your take on Sparrows thread. It echos some of my thoughts on feminists va TRAs

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    6. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      This is pretty much my position rn. What's frustrating is that (as the article @4th_WaveNow shared states) people read 'normative differences' & hear 'traits in mutually exclusive binary opposition with a culturally enforced hierarchy valuing one set of traits over the other'.

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    7. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      Challenging the tacit hierarchy of traits & the notion they exist in mutually exclusive binary opposition is important political work; but to me it feels that the tradeoff has been denying those traits might have any basis in fact, & that denial has itself imposed costs on women.

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    8. Carolyn‏ @katzen_frau 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      I'm interested in hearing more about the last part. What costs do you think this has imposed on women?

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    9. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @katzen_frau @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      #NotAllWomen obvs but for one thing I think internalising a pure social constructionist view of gender in the broadest sense can make the experience of becoming a mother way more difficult and conflicted.

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    10. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @katzen_frau and

      For example there is solid neurological evidence that pregnancy & motherhood radically rewires a woman’s brain. If you’ve internalised a pure social-constructionist view of what it means to be a woman you’ve no frame of reference to help you account for that experience.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @katzen_frau @mrkhtake2

      Just like testosterone radically rewires the brains of FTMs--they'll tell you that themselves. (And there's research backing that up.) Acknowledging the power of hormones and biology does nothing to weaken "our" message when it comes to talking back to radical trans activism.

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