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    2. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      This is pretty much my position rn. What's frustrating is that (as the article @4th_WaveNow shared states) people read 'normative differences' & hear 'traits in mutually exclusive binary opposition with a culturally enforced hierarchy valuing one set of traits over the other'.

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    3. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      Challenging the tacit hierarchy of traits & the notion they exist in mutually exclusive binary opposition is important political work; but to me it feels that the tradeoff has been denying those traits might have any basis in fact, & that denial has itself imposed costs on women.

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    4. Carolyn‏ @katzen_frau 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      I'm interested in hearing more about the last part. What costs do you think this has imposed on women?

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    5. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @katzen_frau @mrkhtake2 @4th_WaveNow

      #NotAllWomen obvs but for one thing I think internalising a pure social constructionist view of gender in the broadest sense can make the experience of becoming a mother way more difficult and conflicted.

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    6. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @katzen_frau and

      For example there is solid neurological evidence that pregnancy & motherhood radically rewires a woman’s brain. If you’ve internalised a pure social-constructionist view of what it means to be a woman you’ve no frame of reference to help you account for that experience.

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    7. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @katzen_frau and

      Maybe that sounds like nothing but the change can feel overwhelming and without a way of making sense of it well hello, post-natal depression. My friend teaches NCT and she says the ones who fervently insist that nothing will change post-baby nearly always get PND 😐

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    8. The Truth is Real‏ @RealAdamB1 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @katzen_frau and

      Interesting. I have worked with endless high achieving women, who expect nothing will change and/or expect to be bored at home with baby. Most are significantly changed by the experience, and I have known some that have not wanted or refused to come back.

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    9. The Truth is Real‏ @RealAdamB1 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @RealAdamB1 @moveincircles and

      Most of them are pretty balanced people to begin with and quickly find a new normal. The only ones I see do it all are exceptionally gifted.

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    10. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @RealAdamB1 @katzen_frau and

      Becoming a mother completely blew up the way I think about feminism, work, priorities, everything. Sure it doesn’t affect every mother like that but significant numbers, yes, and in a way that for me just doesn’t square with ‘sex roles are wholly socially constructed’.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 1 Dec 2018
      Replying to @moveincircles @katzen_frau @mrkhtake2

      Yeah. When you've had your toddler in a politically correct daycare (where there is ZERO pressure to conform to stereotypes & all the moms are lefty-feminists) and watch MOST (not all!) the boys run to trucks and the girls having tea parties, you start realizing some stuff...

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