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    2. Earl Kralik‏ @earlkralik 19 Nov 2018
      Replying to @ItsNicholasNYC @ZUCKERKJ

      99% of children don't "develop" a gender identity, they're born with one. Children display early gender-stereotypical behaviour without any prompting whatsoever.

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    3. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 19 Nov 2018
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      Regardless of whether or not there’s a biological component, gender identity can certainly evolve & there’s nothing wrong with that.

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    5. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 19 Nov 2018
      Replying to @vestigia33 @earlkralik @ZUCKERKJ

      What does this have to do with the evolution of gender identity?

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    7. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 19 Nov 2018
      Replying to @vestigia33 @earlkralik @ZUCKERKJ

      You’re conflating the medical and surgical abuse of children and supporting and affirming gender identity. I don’t see the point in taking it to the extreme when these examples are the exception and not the rule.

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    10. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 20 Nov 2018
      Replying to @vestigia33 @earlkralik and

      #1, reputable recommendations for pre-pubertal non-gender conforming DO NOT include any medical interventions. However, social transitions may be appropriate given family and social support.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Nov 2018
      Replying to @ItsNicholasNYC @vestigia33 and

      Please show data confirming that social transition has no power to cause iatrogenic persistence in trans-ID'ed children. Given the stakes (later irreversible drug & surgical treatments, which typically result in permanent sterility), such data is vital to avoid "false positives."

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        1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @vestigia33 and

          And for that matter, also show the data confirming that pubertal blockade never iatrogenically cause persistence of trans identity. Obviously, such data is nonexistent, so the next question is: How many future regretters are acceptable collateral damage, in your view?

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        2. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @vestigia33 and

          Olson-Kennedy, J., Okonta, V., Clark, L. F., & Belzer, M. (2018). Physiologic response to gender-affirming hormones among transgender youth. Journal of Adolescent Health, 62(4), 397-401.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @ItsNicholasNYC @vestigia33 and

          In that particular study, the investigators report that children as young as 13 were administered cross sex hormones. You may consider that good practice. Others differ.

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        1. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @vestigia33 and

          Connolly, M. D., Zervos, M. J., Barone II, C. J., Johnson, C. C., & Joseph, C. L. (2016). The mental health of transgender youth: Advances in understanding. Journal of Adolescent Health, 59(5), 489-495.

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        2. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @vestigia33 and

          "Gender-affirming medical therapy and supported social transition in childhood have been shown to correlate with improved psychological functioning for gender-variant children and adolescents."

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @ItsNicholasNYC @vestigia33 and

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          You didn't answer my question about iatrogenic effects.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/980140278203015168 …

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          4thWaveNow @4th_WaveNow
          Steensma: Social transitions "have never been studied" as a possible factor in increasing persistence rates. This is why we keep calling for studies that include a control group of dysphoric kids, fully supported in gender nonconformity, but not endorsed as being the opposite sex https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/759123950072958977 …
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        1. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @vestigia33 and

          Nahata, L., Tishelman, A. C., Caltabellotta, N. M., & Quinn, G. P. (2017). Low fertility preservation utilization among transgender youth. Journal of Adolescent Health, 61(1), 40-44.

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        2. Nicholas A. Grosskopf, EdD, MCHES (he/they)‏ @ItsNicholasNYC 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @vestigia33 and

          This is not a zero sum/black and white game here. I believe you are the one "gaslighting" here.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Nov 2018
          Replying to @ItsNicholasNYC @vestigia33 and

          Who said it was zero sum? I asked a simple question. How is that "gaslighting"? "Affirmative" practice, in my view, does not adequately take care to prevent future regret. Perhaps Dr James Cantor is a source you'd respect? http://www.sexologytoday.org/2018/10/american-academy-of-pediatrics-policy.html …

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