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    1. "Legs" Goldman‏ @LegsGoldman 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      I'm curious. In the past 60 years, how many cases of adolescent 'regret' have there been?

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LegsGoldman

      Kids weren't transitioned at all until 1990s, & that was a small group in Netherlands. Under-18 transition only took off about 10 years ago. Long term regret rates are unknown/won't be known for decades. But w/ loosening of gatekeeping & "informed consent," regretters inevitable.

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    3. "Legs" Goldman‏ @LegsGoldman 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      'Transitioned.' The terminology may have come in during the 1990s, but sex-reassignment went on for many decades before. You are just WRONG. We have a half-century of experience to look back upon.

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    4. Leisha Camden‏ @LeishaCamden 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LegsGoldman @4th_WaveNow

      Are you talking about "sex-reassignment" of minors? Is that what you are saying has been going on for many decades? If so, citation please. If not, you and @4th_WaveNow are not talking about the same thing.

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    5. "Legs" Goldman‏ @LegsGoldman 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LeishaCamden @4th_WaveNow

      I have to give you citations? Stop being stupid. Look them up yourself. Do your own research.

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    6. Leisha Camden‏ @LeishaCamden 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LegsGoldman @4th_WaveNow

      OK, so you are in fact claiming that child transitioning has been going on for decades. But you have no source for the claim. OK, that's really all I needed to know. See, I *have* looked into this quite a lot, and I have never heard of what you claim. 🤔

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    7. "Legs" Goldman‏ @LegsGoldman 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LeishaCamden @4th_WaveNow

      No source except medical literature.

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    8. Leisha Camden‏ @LeishaCamden 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LegsGoldman @4th_WaveNow

      Then why can't you link to any of that? Or tell us where to go to find it?

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    10. Leisha Camden‏ @LeishaCamden 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LegsGoldman @4th_WaveNow

      As I said, I have already done a lot of reading on this issue, and I've never seen anything supporting what you claim. And you *have* nothing to support it, and that's fine. Now we know where you stand. It's fine. Stop shouting.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Nov 2018
      Replying to @LeishaCamden

      It's a matter of fact that pubertal blockade, cross-hormones, and surgeries for under-18s were unknown until the Dutch group pioneered them. Medical transition was previously for adults only. "Mrs Swift's" claim to knowledge is laughable (as are her(?) claims about 4thwavenow).

      7:52 AM - 4 Nov 2018
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        1. "Legs" Goldman‏ @LegsGoldman 4 Nov 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LeishaCamden

          Obviously I had it right or you wouldn't overreact like that, fraud.

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