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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Oct 2018

      Gender doctors Jack Turban: "The potential benefits from gender-affirming hormones ... will usually outweigh the low risk of an adolescent later changing their mind & regretting cosmetic changes. " /1 https://www.vox.com/2018/10/22/18009020/transgender-children-teens-transition-detransition-puberty-blocking-medication …

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Oct 2018

      "Cosmetic"? So who cares about the girls who regret the irreversible changes wrought by testosterone? Which include permanent sterility (if puberty blocked first), as well as male-pattern baldness, voice changes, hair growth... /2

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 22 Oct 2018

      This article proves (as if we needed more proof) that, at least in the US, gender docs/psychs consider future regretters acceptable collateral damage when it comes to medical transition. /3

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        1. Vicky L‏ @vickywithdogs 22 Oct 2018
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          Call me cynical but the phrase “follow the money” springs to mind...

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        1. Steve Darkins‏ @stephendarkins 22 Oct 2018
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          At some point surely the malpractice insurers are going to pull the plug on this? One class action from desisters

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        1. Renee Gardner‏ @LavenderVerse 22 Oct 2018
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          A very, very, very small silver lining: Jack Turban admits some will regret medical transition (even if he thinks it's an acceptable part of the gender journey). Will future regret rates be as rare as Turban predicts? I'm doubtful. He didn't factor in social contagion.

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        1. Stephanie Wilson‏ @stephwilson131 22 Oct 2018
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          How dare he. That article is peppered with lies. And YouTube and Tumblr (I’m middle aged and don’t know the other places) are filled with young women’s stories of detransition and their broken bodies.

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