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Pediatric transition skeptics. 'Like samizdat for the sane & ideologically uncowed'. Free speech. Science. Head tweeter: Denise aka Marie (Founder)

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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

      4thWaveNow Retweeted

      How many cases like this is it going to take before trans activists and "affirmative" gender docs stop calling us "bigots" for suggesting medical transition should be an adult decision? https://twitter.com/kaiakaupapa/status/1048519774601338880 …

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

      4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

      Full speed ahead for underage mastectomy.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1033570280621260806 …

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      More evidence for when they say "minors don't get surgery." Lively thread on the Transgender Health (public) FB page about cajoling insurance companies to pay for "top surgery" for under-18s. Several leading lights in the thread. More in next tweets. /1 https://www.facebook.com/groups/transgenderhealth/permalink/2112814315429650/?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDnt1mdbAdWmq9AZ-pp9y_kLjxM5yCjTHGAtPVeO7gPiHSlnp2Wx4CPSsYRW87lmxzu9bUDnD71qg1XDA4dVfoYfHkXCl_W7ucYrfBDHSOQwdqzbumDGbYka0ronh1C72GzsDyNZ269x4Wo5925pwe6dYxMK699xJb07WSmeQzpl2fGqwq3_Q&__tn__=-R … pic.twitter.com/7yQU5QVQWw
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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

      No big deal though--if they regret later, they can just "go and get" breasts. Audio: Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jgd6C0FZ0nJuKJgsK7YBXxsyjJA2Dck2/view …

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

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      After all, at least "they're alive to regret". (Doesn't seem to occur to people like Ehrensaft that there may also be a suicide risk for adult women who deeply regret their decision to have their breasts removed in high school).https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1035586377897848832 …

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      We aren't talking about someone on the fringes of clinical practice here, but an internationally recognized expert on gender dysphoria in children. In an interview w/ Louis Theroux on BBC, she dismissed concerns re: later regret by playing the suicide card. Where's her evidence? pic.twitter.com/3RQIVMO26a
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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

      Trans activists don't care about detransitioners unless they claim to be happy with their former transitions. If they express regret? 1. Never really trans; 2. Just part of your gender journey, no foul; 3. It's your own fault; 4. You'll probably retransition later.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

      Yet some detransitioners still cleave to the trans community--even as it works to suppress their voices. Some even hate on the very people who want to prevent more regrets in the future: by arguing to reinstate reasonable gatekeeping and/or raise the age for medical transition.

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

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          Even a mild article featuring a desister was swarmed by enraged activists, like this @TheEconomist piece. Read it yourself and ask why these people cannot bear for the world to hear from a girl who's glad she wasn't allowed to transition at 16.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1035200737398018049 …

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          From the daughter of one of @LisaLllittman 's survey parents: "Had her mother affirmed her gender identity as a 16-yr-old, as several gender therapists urged, Rachel would have embarked on a medical transition that she turned out not to want after all." https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/09/01/why-are-so-many-teenage-girls-appearing-in-gender-clinics … pic.twitter.com/QEt88Nny2F
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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 6 Oct 2018

          The desister even turned up on Tumblr to add to her story, which included discussion of social contagion & self-rejection because she is a lesbian. Why don't these young women seem to matter to the affirmation crowd/"trans community"? https://chiaracanaan.tumblr.com/post/177791904093/why-are-so-many-teenage-girls-appearing-in-gender …

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