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    1. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      Mary Harrington Retweeted Ugla Stefanía Kristjönudóttir Jónsdóttir

      See I think this kind of mad social constructionism can unfortunately at least in part be laid at the door of feminism. In seeking to deny - for pro-women reasons - any kind of relationship between biology and normative behaviours some feminists opened the door to transactivism.https://twitter.com/UglaStefania/status/1040916378126114817 …

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      Ugla Stefanía Kristjönudóttir Jónsdóttir @UglaStefania
      Superficial statements that ‘male bodies’ or men are the problem don’t actually adress the real issue, which is how we socialise people (and men in particular). We lack things like consent based sex-ed and actions that actively work against toxic gender stereotyping.
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    2. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      If we’re going to engage with the idea that male aggression & violence may have some basis in biology then we have to engage with all of evo psych and the other branches of science that situate some normative sexed behaviour differences in biology.

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    3. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      I get why many feminists are keen to downplay the idea that some normative differences between the sexes may have a basis in bodies/evolution: there’s a queue of dickheads lining up to argue that that means we should get back in the kitchen.

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    4. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      But when it comes to challenging trans lunacy that reluctance to consider a possible bio basis to some sex differences is a fatal weakness. I’m certain that’s why we see so many nasty misogynists lining up to chant ‘Trans women are women’.

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    5. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      Pushing back against bio determinism has helped (at least partially) free women from in many cases grimly restrictive lives. So the backlash goes: ‘ok, if you say diffs between the sexes are arbitrary & socially constructed then it follows that a woman can have a penis amirite?!’

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    6. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      This puts the gender critical feminist argument in an invidious bind: either a) you concede the potential for some bio influences on interest/personality diffs between the sexes and get wazzocks like this all up in your grill wanting to justify abusive marriages w/ evo psych; orpic.twitter.com/x7AxJ2wUXe

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    7. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      Or b) you tie yourself in knots trying to find some way to explain why men can’t be women other than the indivisibility of female biology from the experience of being female. It can just about be done but it’s holed below the waterline.

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    8. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      Whereas if you can push back against transgenderism using the mountains of evidence from many fields of science that show male humans are way more violent than females & that this is rooted in human evolution & biology all the ‘ladyfeelz’ stuff is so transparently a load of BS.

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    9. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      BUT that would necessitate the same feminist voices grappling less defensively with the implications of evo psych for the struggle to liberate women from the oppressive aspects of human culture’s oversimplification of our bio nature as sexually dimorphic human animals.

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    10. Mary Harrington‏Verified account @moveincircles 16 Sep 2018

      I don’t really know where I am with this, except to say ‘so what if there are normative differences between the sexes? It’s a bell curve not a rulebook, and in any case doesn’t justify treating outliers like crap or anyone like a one-dimensional cartoon.’

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 16 Sep 2018
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      So obvious, across cultures, males are more prone to violence. Culture can (& clearly does) mitigate violent tendencies. But saying it's ALL down to socialization is ideological position (at base) that humans alone in the animal kingdom are not subject to evolutionary pressures.

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