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    3. Mama Bear‏ @mamabeargrowl 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @Mumma__Bear @turnthetide2018

      With due respect, 18 year olds get to make all kinds of major life choices without their parents' permission. Cover their bodies in tattoos, get married, donate a kidney, change religions, vote. Why should their medical decisions be any different?

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    4. ShootingStar‏ @turnthetide2018 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @mamabeargrowl @Mumma__Bear

      Medical transition is experimental science. Harmful results are predicted based on established science and are happening now. 18 yr olds know many things (just ask them!) but I am not willing to keep my child’s approval by encouraging him to believe this is what he needs. #ROGD

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    5. Mama Bear‏ @mamabeargrowl 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @turnthetide2018 @Mumma__Bear

      Medical transition is not experimental. People have been doing this for decades. There is extensive research on the topic. Eighteen-year-olds can legally go get nose jobs or liposuction with NO gatekeeping, even though some studies show MOST people regret those surgeries.

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    6. Mama Bear‏ @mamabeargrowl 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @mamabeargrowl @turnthetide2018 @Mumma__Bear

      But they can't get gender confirmation procedures without extensive psychological and medical groundwork, even though regret rates are around about 2%. Why do you suppose the barrier to entry so much higher for trans-related surgeries than similar surgeries for cis people?

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    7. Mama Bear‏ @mamabeargrowl 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @mamabeargrowl @turnthetide2018 @Mumma__Bear

      Here's a quick read that debunks the myth of surgery regret: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/myths-about-transition-regrets_b_6160626.html …

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    9. Mama Bear‏ @mamabeargrowl 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @Mumma__Bear @turnthetide2018

      Sure. I actually used to know a detransitioner, but they have now retransitioned. I know of another kid who detransitioned, after several years of bullying. I think "gender critical" people think we believe nobody detransitions, which is weird.

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    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Aug 2018
      Replying to @mamabeargrowl @Mumma__Bear @turnthetide2018

      Most studies have a high dropout rate. Generally detransitioners aren't going to set foot in a gender clinic again. We really have no idea how many people ultimately regret. And medical transition of CHILDREN is still quite experimental. Even top gender docs know that!pic.twitter.com/1WO4ZPZFYz

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 14 Aug 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @mamabeargrowl and

      Source for above Garofalo quote at this link. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/when-transgender-kids-transition-medical-risks-are-both-known-and-unknown/ …

      12:15 PM - 14 Aug 2018
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