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    1. Rob Smith  🇺🇸‏ @robsmithonline 9 Jul 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      I see she’s still pushing the puberty blockers insanity.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 9 Jul 2018
      Replying to @robsmithonline

      Lately, she has been trolling/quote tweeting anyone who disagrees with the "affirm only" dogma. She also pushes "suicide or transition" on a regular basis.pic.twitter.com/5OfOOYuSD2

      2 replies 5 retweets 14 likes
    3. Yvonne Manly‏ @manly_yvonne 9 Jul 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @GIdentityWatch @robsmithonline

      But the suicide rates are the same before and after transitioning.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Radical Liberal Julie Rei Goldstein‏ @JulieRei 9 Jul 2018
      Replying to @manly_yvonne @4th_WaveNow and

      Do you even know how to read scientific studies? Show me a single study that compares pre-transition suicidality to post-transition suicidality and finds that it doesn't lower drastically post-transition.pic.twitter.com/55DJLTHOWR

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Wolfram Persi‏ @SmackiPeroxid 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @JulieRei @manly_yvonne and

      What you posted neither includes age or the exact medical condition of the participants. Since the term transwomen now include transsexuals, transgender or maybe any other form of GID. Were any comorbid factors present? Is it an early or late transition? also no Links.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Wolfram Persi‏ @SmackiPeroxid 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @SmackiPeroxid @JulieRei and

      I also doubt that there will be ever a solid study answering the question if delaying or even preventing transition before the age of 18, of any children or teenager presenting with any GI problems, causes suicide,

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Radical Liberal Julie Rei Goldstein‏ @JulieRei 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @SmackiPeroxid @manly_yvonne and

      It specifically looks at individuals who underwent medical transition. It's pretty clear. You're making unnecessary distinctions. You can read the studies yourself: https://medium.com/@notCursedE/dear-benshapiro-re-trans-suicides-be483052d97f …

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    8. Yvonne Manly‏ @manly_yvonne 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @JulieRei @SmackiPeroxid and

      The authors note that the survey was flawed. https://4thwavenow.com/2015/08/03/the-41-trans-suicide-rate-a-tale-of-flawed-data-and-lazy-journalists/ …

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    9. Radical Liberal Julie Rei Goldstein‏ @JulieRei 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @manly_yvonne @SmackiPeroxid and

      Yes. The flaw is that it doesn't compare pre-transition to post-transition, which the studies I referenced above actually do. Every single one shows a drastic decrease.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Yvonne Manly‏ @manly_yvonne 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @JulieRei @SmackiPeroxid and

      No the flaw is that is doesn't account for what people consider a suicide attempt.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 10 Jul 2018
      Replying to @manly_yvonne @JulieRei and

      Additionally, the 41% study is of adults (not minors), and it also doesn't control for when the self-harm took place---before or after transition (in the case of people who sought medical transition services)

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        2. Radical Liberal Julie Rei Goldstein‏ @JulieRei 10 Jul 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @manly_yvonne and

          Keep ignoring the studies I cited that actually compare pre-transition to post-transition. It's very telling.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Wolfram Persi‏ @SmackiPeroxid 11 Jul 2018
          Replying to @JulieRei @4th_WaveNow and

          To clear some things up; in my oppinion children/teenagers diagnosed with GID/Transsexualism, should of course receive treatment and transition. But since some disorders/identity-variations have similar symptoms but don't share the same treatment, distinction becomes vital.

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