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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Jun 2018

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      Why does Chelsea Manning's lawyer fly into a rage that someone wrote an article which included (for the first time in the US MSM) two teen girls who thought they were trans, but changed their minds? Two girls. Along with happy trans teens. Why the vitriol? https://twitter.com/thehomoarchy/status/1012446249201496064 …

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Jun 2018

      Here's what Strangio is apopletic about. Decide for yourself: Is it a "piece of shit"? Why does an @ACLU attorney say, in response, "I hate these fucking people" & "more trans ppl should have kids." He hates parents of teens who decide they're not trans?https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/ …

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

      Actually, the screencaps in @thehomoarchy 's tweet are Strangio's reaction to a story last year by the mom of a tomboy, who was tired of ppl asking for her pronouns. But Strangio's feed is full of freakout over the Atlantic, piece too; & he stands by his reactions from last year.pic.twitter.com/TgEqUq5xf2

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

      Trans-activist freakout over @TheAtlantic article boils down to "You should have had a trans journalist cover it!" But half the piece is about desisters & detransitioners. How could a trans journo cover that part, given that: /1

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

      Every trans activist or journo says detransitioners are too rare to be worth covering; there's no such thing as teen girls being caught up in trans-trending social contagion (despite desisters admitting to it themselves); /2

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

      Detransitioners were either "never trans to begin with" or only detransition because of "social pressure" & will end up retransitioning in future. All of this, despite many detrans/desisters having met DSM-V criteria for gender dysphoria (e.g., Delta in @TheAtlantic piece). /3

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    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

      Whole basis of the tantrum that @TheAtlantic should have picked a trans journo is predicated on ONLY trans people's "lived experience" being pertinent. But trans-ID'ed ppl AREN'T detransitioners or desisters, so if "lived experience" is the criterion, they don't have it. /4

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

      This reveals the real reason for the tantrum: They don't want ANYone to cover the inconvenient cases of desistance & destransition, unless it's to dismiss and deny them. Or to say that the very mention of those cases is directly responsible for children committing suicide. /5pic.twitter.com/GjR6LFN75i

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

          (Above tweet is only a smattering of the hyperbolic reactions spreading like a virus on social media.) So: An article that devotes half its space to a few cases of desistance/detransition, the other half to strongly supporting medical transition is literally killing people. /6

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 29 Jun 2018

          Real investigative journalists search for nuance. Reporting complex issues is best done by those who AREN'T invested in only one side--or who are vulnerable to emotional blackmail. The voices of desisters/detransitioners, & their families, also deserve to be heard. /fin

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        1. Henry Wimbush‏ @MrHenryWimbush 29 Jun 2018
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          Detransitioners are apostates to gender religion.

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        2. Radical Liberal Julie Rei Goldstein‏ @JulieRei 29 Jun 2018
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          This is a straight up lie. No one says you can't mention those cases. The issue is the framing. Using said cases as justification to deny treatment to others is what is directly responsible for causing irreversible trauma. Maybe stop using it as an excuse not to support kids.

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        3. I'm Mount Lady‏ @Sassculine 29 Jun 2018
          Replying to @JulieRei @4th_WaveNow

          What does it mean to "support kids?" Having an ethical objection to underage children undergoing potentially irreversible transition processes when they're not old enough to consent to sex or buy a pack of cigarettes is not an attack om children.

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