"Utter bullshit?" It's a statement by one of the top gender clinicians in the United States, on the public WPATH Facebook page. Shoot the messenger all you like.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and
There is no doubt that under Drs Jo & Selzer, Los Angeles sees a lot of gender dysphoria kids. That's one of the reasons I asked WHERE people lived. LA is filled w/run aways, throw aways & progressive thinking. It makes sense to me more kids on HRT or blockers early. 1/
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Replying to @birdcatcher9 @DrCherylllP and
Even if these kids do manage to lead a relatively normal happy life, this in no way proves that they wouldn't have done just as well or better w/out having been rendered sterile & permanently medicalized had they been allowed puberty, sexual development & more maturation.
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Replying to @FightUnreality @birdcatcher9 and
And now NO studies are being done comparing kids who have been socially/medically transitioned with a control group of kids who were supported in their gender atypicality but not transitioned.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FightUnreality and
4th- what exactly would you want to be studied between medical Transgenders & gender non conformity? What's the study? Happiness? Depression? What? Maybe I can look further to see if there is any research.
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Replying to @DrCherylllP @FightUnreality and
Compare two groups of gender dysphoric children: One group socially/medically transitioned, other group strongly supported in their gender atypicality but NOT endorsed in notion they are "in the wrong body" or "really" the opposite sex. Compare outcomes longitudinally.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FightUnreality and
So I'm trying to follow you & willing to look deeper for research but when you say "compare" it's just too broad. Researchers compare X or X & Y in Z populations. What do you want compared, life span? Happiness, regret, etc. can be so many things. Can you narrow it down?
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Replying to @DrCherylllP @FightUnreality and
The research hasn't been done. LONGTERM (10+ years, preferably more into adulthood past age 25), well controlled study: One group: social/medical transition. Control: loved, supported in gender atypicality, but not transitioned. Outcomes: Psych/med status, subject and objective
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FightUnreality and
I think I know what you want but it's too grand. A study would look a narrow field to increase specificity, reliability & validity etc. So 2 groups, long term study, effect of (ex) relational happiness. When you says Psych/Med there are too many variables to study. Narrow it?
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One important factor to study is resolution vs exacerbation/worsening of gender dysphoria. Long term.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and
For one thing, they would need to receive *independent* assessment (not self-assessment) & their adjustment needs to be considered in relation to ability to maintain employment, social & intimate relationships, independence, etc., not just how *they* feel about transitioning.
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