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    1. Lisa Marchiano‏ @LisaMarchiano 28 May 2018

      Affirmative care has become the dominant model, even though top clinicians such as Jack Drescher state the evidence for affirmation is poor. https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/440851/can-you-really-know-that-a-3-year-old-is-transgender …pic.twitter.com/pi2yGjgMDQ

      4 replies 40 retweets 100 likes
    2. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 29 May 2018
      Replying to @LisaMarchiano @JamesCantorPhD @DrCherylllP

      And the evidence that detransitioning is a bad as all this is even more lacking. If detransitioning at 12 is bad... then forcing transkids to wait to transition has exactly the same bad effect. The anti-trans bias is so thick one needs a knife rather than a spoon.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Bob Withers‏ @BobWithers52 30 May 2018
      Replying to @Display_Geek @LisaMarchiano and

      Except that medical transition sterilises people and the Hippocratic oath is to first do no harm

      6 replies 2 retweets 45 likes
    4. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @BobWithers52 @LisaMarchiano and

      Doctors do NOT swear by the Hippocratic oath as it requires that they NOT use a scalpel. Sterilizing people to treat illness is common, or even just because they don't want children. This is BS of the highest order.https://gizmodo.com/doctors-aren-t-actually-bound-by-the-hippocratic-oath-1465044222 …

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Display_Geek @BobWithers52 and

      The Hippocratic oath does not omit use of a scalpel.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Bob Withers‏ @BobWithers52 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @Display_Geek and

      It’s lack of a scientific way of telling in advance who the scalpel will help and who it will harm that is the problem

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    7. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @BobWithers52 @Display_Geek and

      But we're not talking about pre-teens getting gender reassignment surgery. We're not even talking about anyone under 18 getting surgery. After that, if someone's gone through what experts have recommended - it's their choice.

      10 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @BobWithers52 and

      At risk of "Dr Cheryl" tagging Twitter Support into the thread, in the US, under 18s DO get gender surgeries. Not a secret. And gender docs agitate for no minimum age for such surgeries. Jazz Jennings (age 17) is slated for "bottom surgery" this month.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-RkaVMHnQ …

      8 replies 15 retweets 53 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and

      Johanna Olson Kennedy at Children's Hospital LA is administering cross-sex hormones to kids as young as 12. Pesky side effect: Irreversible sterilization.pic.twitter.com/wHCC2FGfWf

      8 replies 22 retweets 46 likes
    10. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

      You've created a movement, a place for parents who are naturally concerned about their child & you've basically forgotten individual circumstances. You provide an absurd amount of bad information leading to a potentially permanent discord b/t parent & child under guise of help 2

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @BobWithers52 and

      4thWaveNow simply reports what gender docs/psychs *themselves* say. Your condescending assumption that 4thWave parents can't think for themselves is duly noted. You have no idea who you're talking to: well informed parents, including lawyers, doctors, & psychotherapists.

      3:19 PM - 5 Jun 2018
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        1. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

          Let's be clear - I definitely think parents can think for themselves & should You & your page absolutely treat parents like they are idiots who can't think for themselves so you're going to independently tell them what they need to know. Seriously, your comment is a projection

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