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    2. Lisa Marchiano‏ @LisaMarchiano 28 May 2018

      Affirmative care has become the dominant model, even though top clinicians such as Jack Drescher state the evidence for affirmation is poor. https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/440851/can-you-really-know-that-a-3-year-old-is-transgender …pic.twitter.com/pi2yGjgMDQ

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    3. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 29 May 2018
      Replying to @LisaMarchiano @JamesCantorPhD @DrCherylllP

      And the evidence that detransitioning is a bad as all this is even more lacking. If detransitioning at 12 is bad... then forcing transkids to wait to transition has exactly the same bad effect. The anti-trans bias is so thick one needs a knife rather than a spoon.

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    4. Bob Withers‏ @BobWithers52 30 May 2018
      Replying to @Display_Geek @LisaMarchiano and

      Except that medical transition sterilises people and the Hippocratic oath is to first do no harm

      6 replies 2 retweets 45 likes
    5. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @BobWithers52 @LisaMarchiano and

      Doctors do NOT swear by the Hippocratic oath as it requires that they NOT use a scalpel. Sterilizing people to treat illness is common, or even just because they don't want children. This is BS of the highest order.https://gizmodo.com/doctors-aren-t-actually-bound-by-the-hippocratic-oath-1465044222 …

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Display_Geek @BobWithers52 and

      The Hippocratic oath does not omit use of a scalpel.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Bob Withers‏ @BobWithers52 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @Display_Geek and

      It’s lack of a scientific way of telling in advance who the scalpel will help and who it will harm that is the problem

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    8. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @BobWithers52 @Display_Geek and

      But we're not talking about pre-teens getting gender reassignment surgery. We're not even talking about anyone under 18 getting surgery. After that, if someone's gone through what experts have recommended - it's their choice.

      10 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @BobWithers52 and

      At risk of "Dr Cheryl" tagging Twitter Support into the thread, in the US, under 18s DO get gender surgeries. Not a secret. And gender docs agitate for no minimum age for such surgeries. Jazz Jennings (age 17) is slated for "bottom surgery" this month.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-RkaVMHnQ …

      8 replies 15 retweets 53 likes
    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and

      Jazz has been on cross-sex hormones since age 12 .This has been stated by Jazz and family openly on the reality show "I am Jazz." Jazz was rendered permanently sterile while still in middle school.

      3 replies 8 retweets 22 likes
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and

      And whether Jazz ever wants to have children is immaterial. You don't sterilize children. The decision to reproduce (or not) is one reserved to adults. 12-year-olds aren't capable of making that decision. This used to be uncontroversial--only a few years ago.

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        2. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

          Jax is a unique child who since she could talk had expressed herself famale. We don't really need to fully vacillate the sterility now if pt claims no - or if parent says no! It's right for some, not right for all.

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        3. AGenderCriticalDad#BringBackMRKHVoice  🟥‏ @dad_gc 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @DrCherylllP @4th_WaveNow and

          Jazz is a unique child who since he could talk has been told he is a girl, because he does not do boy well enough for his parents.

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        2. Trainee Battleaxe‏ @traineebattleax 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @LilyLilyMaynard and

          Well into my twenties I thought I didn't want kids. Now happily got two. Children just aren't mature enough to make that decision.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 13 Jun 2018
          Replying to @traineebattleax @4th_WaveNow and

          Your experience does not negate others.

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        2. Coward the Duck‏ @cashewsandeggs 5 Jun 2018

          That is the most disturbing part to me.

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        2. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 13 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and

          The big lie is here that of suggesting that "12 year olds" are being permanently sterilized... oh dear... that means I "sterilized" my 14 year old female child when I authorized her to use subcutaneous depo-provera inserts that last a year for birth control.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jun 2018
          Replying to @Display_Geek @DrCherylllP and

          4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

          Who's lying here? Puberty blockers followed directly by cross-sex hormones results in permanent sterilization. Immature gametes can't be banked. Even gender specialists say this openly.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1004465605758607360 …

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          4thWaveNow @4th_WaveNow
          Replying to @Jennifer_star @DrCherylllP and 4 others
          It's common knowledge that puberty blockers followed by cross-sex hormones causes permanent sterilization. Gender doctors themselves openly "make those claims." pic.twitter.com/RpGctEB0AG
          2 replies 4 retweets 12 likes
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        2. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 13 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

          I have an idea. Why don't to arrange an interview with Jazz, her family & some of her physicians? You're not getting what GID or GD is. You're not understanding the research, the experience or trained to know. I get it. You feel your loved turned your kid around. Let others be.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jun 2018
          Replying to @DrCherylllP @BobWithers52 and

          Cheryl, have tried repeatedly to respond to your questions in good faith. It hasn't worked. You make assumptions and assertions that are incorrect. Muting you now. Good luck.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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