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    3. Lisa Marchiano‏ @LisaMarchiano 28 May 2018

      Affirmative care has become the dominant model, even though top clinicians such as Jack Drescher state the evidence for affirmation is poor. https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/440851/can-you-really-know-that-a-3-year-old-is-transgender …pic.twitter.com/pi2yGjgMDQ

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    4. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 29 May 2018
      Replying to @LisaMarchiano @JamesCantorPhD @DrCherylllP

      And the evidence that detransitioning is a bad as all this is even more lacking. If detransitioning at 12 is bad... then forcing transkids to wait to transition has exactly the same bad effect. The anti-trans bias is so thick one needs a knife rather than a spoon.

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    5. Bob Withers‏ @BobWithers52 30 May 2018
      Replying to @Display_Geek @LisaMarchiano and

      Except that medical transition sterilises people and the Hippocratic oath is to first do no harm

      6 replies 2 retweets 45 likes
    6. Kay Brown‏ @Display_Geek 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @BobWithers52 @LisaMarchiano and

      Doctors do NOT swear by the Hippocratic oath as it requires that they NOT use a scalpel. Sterilizing people to treat illness is common, or even just because they don't want children. This is BS of the highest order.https://gizmodo.com/doctors-aren-t-actually-bound-by-the-hippocratic-oath-1465044222 …

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    7. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Display_Geek @BobWithers52 and

      The Hippocratic oath does not omit use of a scalpel.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Bob Withers‏ @BobWithers52 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @Display_Geek and

      It’s lack of a scientific way of telling in advance who the scalpel will help and who it will harm that is the problem

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    9. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @BobWithers52 @Display_Geek and

      But we're not talking about pre-teens getting gender reassignment surgery. We're not even talking about anyone under 18 getting surgery. After that, if someone's gone through what experts have recommended - it's their choice.

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    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @DrCherylllP @BobWithers52 and

      At risk of "Dr Cheryl" tagging Twitter Support into the thread, in the US, under 18s DO get gender surgeries. Not a secret. And gender docs agitate for no minimum age for such surgeries. Jazz Jennings (age 17) is slated for "bottom surgery" this month.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-RkaVMHnQ …

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and

      Jazz has been on cross-sex hormones since age 12 .This has been stated by Jazz and family openly on the reality show "I am Jazz." Jazz was rendered permanently sterile while still in middle school.

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @DrCherylllP and

          And whether Jazz ever wants to have children is immaterial. You don't sterilize children. The decision to reproduce (or not) is one reserved to adults. 12-year-olds aren't capable of making that decision. This used to be uncontroversial--only a few years ago.

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        3. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

          Jax is a unique child who since she could talk had expressed herself famale. We don't really need to fully vacillate the sterility now if pt claims no - or if parent says no! It's right for some, not right for all.

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        2. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

          Jazz doesn't care. That was her choice to make with her family. She's seemingly excited to get bottom surgery & that may physically be functional. If she wants kids, she'll adopt. She feels fine about her life's choices. I'm fine then too How is her choice, your issue? It's not

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @DrCherylllP @BobWithers52 and

          That part of the thread was in response to (and refuting) your earlier tweet that minors aren't undergoing SRS. We consider sterilizing minors to be a human rights violation (and remember, Jazz was sterilized via cross-sex hormones at 12, not 17). You obviously differ.

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        1. Cheryl Prevor Psy.D 🐝‏ @DrCherylllP 16 Jun 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @BobWithers52 and

          Jazz has been deemed an unusual person demonstrating some of the earliest gender rejection on record. Makes sense she started process at 12. Good for her & her family who allowed her to complete all of the necessary requirements.

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