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    Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

    That CityLab piece about Seattle buses is full of painfully obvious statements like this which, nonetheless, apparently need to be said:pic.twitter.com/Cu1uDfNGWu

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      2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEADS FOLKS:pic.twitter.com/0tKteIdgBZ

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        It turns out that when you give people clean frequent transit that serves all trip purposes, they prefer to live near itpic.twitter.com/3HRKORcROb

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      4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        This is kind of stupid: why exactly would anyone be surprised to find that people with less money are more inclined to avoid spending money?pic.twitter.com/pBIuf0EzI6

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        This is unbelievably stupid and reckless framing: an effective bus network and a rail network ARE COMPLEMENTARY, NOT ADVERSARIAL.pic.twitter.com/0kSDN9GCsp

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      6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        Calling the bus the "rival" of the train is like calling the expressway the rival of the arterial

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      7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        Overall takeaways: what did Seattle do? - Dedicated ROWs for buses on major streets - Added frequency vs expanding coverage - Adopted unified fare medium for their various transit providers - Avoided budget shortfalls thru new taxes - Employer buy-in thru subsidized passes

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      8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11

        And one which didn't quite fit: THEY FOCUSED ON KEEPING THE BUSES CLEAN

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      2. Perpetually Tired Phillennium Line  😴 👶‏ @PhillenniumLine May 11
        Replying to @380kmh

        THANK YOU Every time I see Jarrett Walker or some other transit expert whinging about Uber killing transit, my reaction is: look at Seattle. If transit is actually good, people will use it. Uber is not killing transit. It's filling the vacuum left by awful transit.

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11
        Replying to @PhillenniumLine

        I think Walker's issue with Uber is more fair than that: he is concerned more about public officials neglecting their duty to improve transit and instead assuming that Uber will just pick up the slack and render transit obsolete

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      4. Perpetually Tired Phillennium Line  😴 👶‏ @PhillenniumLine May 11
        Replying to @380kmh

        If that's the case then I'm 100% in agreement with him. Uber isn't a cure-all. But arguments from him (and many others, I don't mean to target him specifically) often don't make that nuance clear.

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      5. Perpetually Tired Phillennium Line  😴 👶‏ @PhillenniumLine May 11
        Replying to @PhillenniumLine @380kmh

        That frustrates me because I feel like even in cases where transit is excellent, Uber can play a complementary role which still is another piece to help move people away from personal cars.

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      6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11
        Replying to @PhillenniumLine

        I agree! Uber is a form of transit too

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      7. Perpetually Tired Phillennium Line  😴 👶‏ @PhillenniumLine May 11
        Replying to @380kmh

        Also, this sounds weird, but I think the debate is hurt by lack of clear nomenclature. "TNC" is clunky so people just use Uber generically like Kleenex. That inevitably leads to people focusing specifically on Uber's dubious labour practices instead of the concept as a whole.

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      8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11
        Replying to @PhillenniumLine

        agreed--I would prefer to just refer to them as "taxis" but that brings in all the baggage associated with taxis

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      2. D R O N E D I A R Y‏ @ViddyMalchick May 11
        Replying to @380kmh

        king county metro still has its fair share of issues tho lemme tell ya

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh May 11
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        I believe it!

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      1.  👻Norman 🎃Hackerman ☠ 🧠 🛴‏ @nathanhay May 12
        Replying to @380kmh

        speaking of which I have this notion that if this happens any time soon and destroys the single-family home hegemony once and for all, Seattle will be the Istanbul or Tokyo of North America by the middle of the 21st centuryhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one/amp …

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      1. toujoursgai61‏ @mforsis May 11
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        it would help if buses didn't have sick up on the seats. Speaking as a tourist in Seattle.

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