Yes, much better to let everyone suffer together in pointless misery that reduces the actual number of people who get where they’re trying to go.
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I'm really gonna need actual case study data to demonstrate that throughput increases if you keep using this line. A cursory search pulls up...simulated congestion pricing effects, but no real-world data: https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/congestionpricing/resources/benefits_savings.htm …
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The model says demand drops 15% and throughput increases 50%! Excellent news since models don't just spit back out the assumptions of the people who run thempic.twitter.com/LzAQDcpRtM
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The model based off of typical driver behavior is capitalist lies. That sure is convenient. The point of contention I’ve mainly seen is how effective pricing is at keeping people off the roads, not whether throughput increases if that’s achieved.
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My point of contention is that it offers no benefit if throughput doesn't increase (you're just charging more for the same congestion), so can someone please demonstrate that it actually increases throughput
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Okay so you agree that if the congestion were eliminated, then throughput would increase, but that the drivers wouldn’t respond effectively to pricing?
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My point is that congestion isn't so easily eliminated--that it's one helluva big "if"--and that consequently it may require a drastic price increase to noticeably reduce congestion
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This is a fair point. Firstly, I think that toll roads show that pricing can reduce congestion, however toll roads generally slow down traffic as they enter them. The fact that Uber/Lyft have surge pricing I think shows that whether or not people make trips is malleable to price.
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CYNTHIA NIXON NEEDS ADVISEMENT ON THIS I DONT WANT HER TO SLIP UP
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