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Haunted Forrest 🌲
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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 27

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      Cannot emphasize enough the error in this logic: RAISING THE COST OF ROADS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THERE IS ANY TRANSIT FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE INSTEAD, NOR DOES IT IMPROVE THE QUALITY OR RELIABILITY OF TRANSIT THAT MAY EXIST. https://twitter.com/rickyofmontay/status/978639045491339264 …

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 27

      It's sort of the opposite of the OTHER famously misguided transit advocacy: arguing that we should invest in transit because it will "reduce congestion," which is very rarely the case!

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 27

      Congestion pricing on roads will work out one of three ways: - roads stay congested because everyone can pay - roads stay congested because user base shifts to richer (but just as numerous) crowd - road congestion drops because people can no longer afford to travel

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        1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 27

          Of those three options, the first is the best (new revenue stream for road upkeep and new construction, w/o shutting down people's ability to travel)...but you don't need a dynamic price for this, tolls accomplish the same thing

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        2. The Pumpkin Spice Avenger‏ @TaupeAvenger Mar 27
          Replying to @380kmh

          I think there’s a huge range between can’t afford to travel and no change. People shop more locally, carpool, bike, shift to existing etc. This is like when the price of beef goes up 10% & people buy more chicken. It’s not that they can’t afford beef but chicken is a better deal

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 27
          Replying to @TaupeAvenger

          Yes, that's the ideal scenario, but it presupposes there is an available substitute. Many people have no access to transit at all, or the access they do have is to something which takes 2-3 times longer than driving would.

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        4. The Pumpkin Spice Avenger‏ @TaupeAvenger Mar 27
          Replying to @380kmh

          Which is why I’m proposing bus service as part of the tolling regime.

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        5. The Pumpkin Spice Avenger‏ @TaupeAvenger Mar 27
          Replying to @TaupeAvenger @380kmh

          Trains, are also acceptable, of course.

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        2. ALL GANG WEED BRO‏ @ALLCAPSBRO Mar 27
          Replying to @380kmh

          THE GOAL IS FOR RICH PPL TO MOVE AROUND EASIER SO I THINK THEY'LL BE HAPPY WITH #2 OR #3

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        4. ALL GANG WEED BRO‏ @ALLCAPSBRO Mar 27
          Replying to @dmbcrash @380kmh

          NO THE GOAL IS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PPL WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO MOVE AROUND AND THE POORS CAN STAY HOME

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        6. ALL GANG WEED BRO‏ @ALLCAPSBRO Mar 27
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          DUDE THE ENTIRE REASON WE'RE HAVING ALL THESE CONGESTION ISSUES IS UBER, WHO IS DISTORTING THE MARKET STANDARD OIL STYLE WITH VC MONEY

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        8. ALL GANG WEED BRO‏ @ALLCAPSBRO Mar 27
          Replying to @dmbcrash @380kmh

          YES AND THEY'VE BEEN EXACERBATED GREATLY BY UBERS ARRIVAL

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        1. Ethan Finlan‏ @Ethan_Finlan Mar 27
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          Or, people will carpool/use transit more.

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