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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
      Replying to @drive2surf

      the neighborhood is riddled with gardens and parks--but even if this weren't the case..."green space" is a badly overrated aspect of cities, mainly championed by people who don't want to live in cities in the first place. Green embellishment (see pics) > green spacepic.twitter.com/yTBfZCFGaK

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    2. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
      Replying to @380kmh @drive2surf

      but this isn't true, is it? olmstead designed the emerald necklace and central park in the mid 19th century, boston common's been around forever, hyde park, etc in london have been open to the public since the 1600s. historically, urban density was in no way uniform - was it?

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
      Replying to @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

      Urban density is rarely uniform because different parts of the city are more or less valuable to live in (due to proximity, industry, amenity, etc). Open space is also a historic constant in cities--but open GREEN space is relative novelty. The plaza, forum, market, etc are trad.

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    4. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
      Replying to @380kmh @drive2surf

      urban density varies because, i'd assume, different parts of the city are built out at different times, under different conditions. undeveloped parts of cities would have been green(ish) by default, but not originally "parkland", technically

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    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
      Replying to @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

      ya that's the other thing--when you're building w the expectation that most people will walk, you get a naturally high density and (at least pre-industrial age) still keep the countryside w/in walking distance of the city itself (see: Florence, Siena, etc)

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    6. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
      Replying to @380kmh @drive2surf

      i don't think there was ever an expectation that people would (only) walk. people always had pack and riding animals around. walking is the only alternative now because we don't use animals in cities anymore.

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    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
      Replying to @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

      Pack and riding animals were much more expensive to own than cars are now--overwhelming majority of transportation was on foot, unless you're carrying a serious amount of baggage

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    8. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
      Replying to @380kmh @drive2surf

      i guess my point is just that i think historically people living in cities have had relatively attainable access to nature until industrial era sprawl, and that seems to be when parks were deliberately engineered >

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    9. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
      Replying to @mr_archenemy @380kmh @drive2surf

      > and that seems to contradict the assertion that people who want green space don't want to live in cities in the first place.

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
      Replying to @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

      The operative word is really "space" rather than "green" I guess--like I said about green embellishment being ok. The whole thing abt parks etc is that in 99% of street photos, you won't see the park--it's a set-aside part of the city, not a one that's integrated on every street

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
      Replying to @380kmh @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

      Remember that in a lot of the past, access to nature was not exactly sought-after...nature was what you built houses to be protected from! Moreover, a lot of urban history took place where nature wasn't exactly "green," or the greenery wasn't quite natural (eg Egypt, Mesopotamia)

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