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    Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19

    Haunted Forrest  🌲 Retweeted Wrath Of Gnon

    You will notice that the densest part of London is not hivelike apartment towers, but MANY SMALL BUILDINGS CLOSE TOGETHER Very important lesson here!https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/975530661816578049 …

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    Wrath Of Gnon @wrathofgnon
    Typical street and houses in the most densely populated ward in London (Colville Ward, Notting Hill). Traditional urbanism works. pic.twitter.com/E2R6sd62Jp
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      2. brothersurfer‏ @drive2surf Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh

        Where is their green space? Is there a green space ratio that is factored in your view of ideal planning? Examples?

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @drive2surf

        the neighborhood is riddled with gardens and parks--but even if this weren't the case..."green space" is a badly overrated aspect of cities, mainly championed by people who don't want to live in cities in the first place. Green embellishment (see pics) > green spacepic.twitter.com/yTBfZCFGaK

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      4. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @drive2surf

        but this isn't true, is it? olmstead designed the emerald necklace and central park in the mid 19th century, boston common's been around forever, hyde park, etc in london have been open to the public since the 1600s. historically, urban density was in no way uniform - was it?

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

        Urban density is rarely uniform because different parts of the city are more or less valuable to live in (due to proximity, industry, amenity, etc). Open space is also a historic constant in cities--but open GREEN space is relative novelty. The plaza, forum, market, etc are trad.

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      6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

        Cities are obviously much older than the 1600s--what are the famous parks of Rome or Damascus? Chang'an or Hangzhou? etc etc

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      7. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @drive2surf

        oh, sure - don't know, just reached for evidence close at hand. i guess the hanging gardens of babylon are pretty famous, though.

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      8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @mr_archenemy @drive2surf

        certainly! but I also understand that they were something unusual for their time, not widely imitated

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      2. Bert Hyman‏ @berthyman Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @michaelbd

        On the other hand, Baltimore row houses, white marble steps and all.pic.twitter.com/LIA7U0GLsN

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @berthyman @michaelbd

        yes bc this is not a two-way relationship; good urbanism means small buildings close together, but small buildings close together don't automatically mean good urbanism

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      4. Bert Hyman‏ @berthyman Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @michaelbd

        For me, houses sitting on 60’ wide lots in my neighborhood are just a bit claustrophobic.

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @berthyman @michaelbd

        then I would suggest not moving to a major city

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      6. Bert Hyman‏ @berthyman Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @michaelbd

        Even when Baltimore pretended to be a major city, housing density varied greatly from neighborhood to neighborhood. The same is true here. Densepack housing doesn’t make a city “major.”

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      7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @berthyman @michaelbd

        ya no kidding you can have nice walkable towns even with under 1000 residents but you'll find fewer spacious lots in highly-demanded cities (which makes them major--not just their raw population size)pic.twitter.com/2KdcyTp9lL

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      8. Bert Hyman‏ @berthyman Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh @michaelbd

        You can have nice walkable towns especially with under 1000 residents.

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      9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @berthyman @michaelbd

        sure they're not too claustrophobic?

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      2. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh

        so, how is this not a hive? seems like a hive to me, but from before modern engineering allowed us to more trivially build high.

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      3. bronze age lantern‏ @mr_archenemy Mar 19
        Replying to @mr_archenemy @380kmh

        what's the difference, to you, between a "hive" and a "warren", I guess?

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      4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Mar 19
        Replying to @mr_archenemy

        Hives are for insects, warrens are for mammals

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      1. Neil‏ @neipate96 Mar 19
        Replying to @380kmh

        and it's much less dense than Paris and NIMBY regulations make it hard to build up and housing prices went way up in the last 15 years

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