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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 31

      Haunted Forrest  🌲 Retweeted Mary Ann Dimand

      It's certainly true that privatization is no *guarantee,* however, one advantage to operating transit in a profit-seeking manner is that there is a concrete incentive to increase service where demand is highhttps://twitter.com/maryanndimand/status/958771171159310337 …

      Haunted Forrest  🌲 added,

      Mary Ann Dimand @maryanndimand
      This is the last of a 4-tweet thread. I will add that networks and networks externalities being what they are, one inadequate route can/does depress demand across the entire network. Fund #instrastructure as public goods/services. Privatization is no answer. https://twitter.com/380kmh/status/958741853943320577 …
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    2. Mary Ann Dimand‏ @maryanndimand Jan 31
      Replying to @380kmh

      A big problem with operating separate portions of a transport network on profit-maximizing bases is that each segment is benefited/harmed by others, and they're not coordinated.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 31
      Replying to @maryanndimand

      Yes--however, the network which I was tweeting about earlier is not operated on any sort of profit-maximizing bases; rather, it's based on a compromise btw how much the state is willing to pay us and where local politicians insist it should run, regardless of ridership.

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        2. Mary Ann Dimand‏ @maryanndimand Jan 31
          Replying to @380kmh

          Look. You say, This is a not-so-frequent bus route very full, lots of demand, probably more demand. I say, Uh huh, and there's probably demand on a network basis that's suppress by the inadequacy of the route. 1/n

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        3. Mary Ann Dimand‏ @maryanndimand Jan 31
          Replying to @maryanndimand @380kmh

          You say, At least with profit maximizing provision there would be response to demand. I say, Profit maximization in network situations isn't all that. You say, This bus service is not provided on a profit-maximizing basis. 2/n

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        4. Mary Ann Dimand‏ @maryanndimand Jan 31
          Replying to @maryanndimand @380kmh

          This does not strike me as a very sensible way for responsive conversation to go. 3/4

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        5. Mary Ann Dimand‏ @maryanndimand Jan 31
          Replying to @maryanndimand @380kmh

          I am sorry to hear that your local transit bd is so unresponsive. They aren't all: a friendly acquaintance of mine served on that of Aurora, CO for years, & they indeed considered & balanced demands of various sorts. Perhaps you might visit a bd meeting. 4/4

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 31
          Replying to @maryanndimand

          I am employed by our local transit department and routinely attend board meetings. There are many factors which play a role in where transit is operated here, and I am frustrated that ridership is not a higher priority, hence my original tweets.

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        7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 31
          Replying to @380kmh @maryanndimand

          I agreed with what you said about network effects (although this is one of the *most* frequent routes in our network, so it is likely hindered by other routes more than the reverse), and with your comment about the problems of profit-driven operation...

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 31
          Replying to @380kmh @maryanndimand

          ...at the same time, I know there are advantages in profit-driven operation, and that state operation as a public good/service, while with its merits, presents its own problems.

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        9. Mary Ann Dimand‏ @maryanndimand Jan 31
          Replying to @380kmh

          Yes-- nothing is simple, and nothing is easy.

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