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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26

      Really fed up with these pieces fretting about how *minimum* wage isn't sufficient for *average* rental prices--by definition, there are lots of rentals for less than the average price!https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-much-you-need-for-rent_us_5942cc92e4b0f15cd5b9e2ee …

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26

      Also, looking at wages for a SINGLE worker and comparing to rents for TWO BEDROOM HOMES is just wildly dishonest--if you're struggling like that you'll go for a studio or one bedroom, or split a house with multiple other earning roommates! Come on fellas...

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        2. Snow-boo. andrw 🌈 🥑 🐻 🌎 🇺🇸 🗻 🍊‏ @andr_w Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          That's because you're not thinking about it as a single parent who may have to support a child.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @andr_w

          Wow I guess they're gonna have to turn to any of the countless apartments that are below the average local rent

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh @andr_w

          I mean, I brought up studios etc--but even among 2BR houses at market value (eg ignoring ALL subsidized housing), the article is looking at the 40th percentile rent, so 2 out of every 5 such houses will be that price or lower

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        5. Snow-boo. andrw 🌈 🥑 🐻 🌎 🇺🇸 🗻 🍊‏ @andr_w Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          it's true. but, if your a parent with a child. it's not possible anymore to be on a minimum wage job and afford housing.

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        6. Snow-boo. andrw 🌈 🥑 🐻 🌎 🇺🇸 🗻 🍊‏ @andr_w Jan 26
          Replying to @andr_w @380kmh

          *housing that's respectable. I'm sure there maybe a range , but it's the first time in a long time that average rent for a single-income household won't even be covered by a single earner at minimum wage.

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        7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @andr_w

          if you're a single parent with a minimum wage job "respectable" housing is maybe an unrealistic standard--what's the point of providing subsidized housing if not exactly for struggling cases like this?

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        8. Snow-boo. andrw 🌈 🥑 🐻 🌎 🇺🇸 🗻 🍊‏ @andr_w Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          "Respetable" housing is what my family and many others had for a very long time. It's now not even within reach throughout 90% of the country.

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        9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @andr_w

          What constitutes "respectable" exactly

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        2. Byzantine Age Pervert‏ @NotYetMyTime Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          If articles like this help to spur more equitable pay regimes I'll take them being misleading.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @NotYetMyTime

          what if they are so transparently misleading that they prompt people to think there isn't really a problem

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh @NotYetMyTime

          what if the problem here is that the housing market is so locked down that landlords can extort whatever they want, and we decide to start rising to their outrageous demands every time they go up instead of just building more houses

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        2. cirque du so gay‏ @chrrrrri Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          What if you a single mom tho

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @chrrrrri

          then you are not the bulk of minimum wage workers; this map is talking about all minimum wage workers, not just single moms moreover, it's talking about market rent--ie it's not even factoring in subsidized housing (let alone any other social programs that can augment wages)

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh @chrrrrri

          (and ofc there is still my point in the first tweet which is that you can expect about half of the two-bedroom rental homes in each state to be *lower* than the price used for the analysis)

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        5. cirque du so gay‏ @chrrrrri Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          ahh I see

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        1. 3rd String Villain‏ @BBBE555 Jan 26
          Replying to @380kmh

          The perverse way this information gets disseminated and digested has other consequences too. The market for studios and 1 bd apts. is completely dysfunctional.

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        1. Dr. Zan‏ @Dr_Zan_ Jan 26
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          It basically assumes people living beyond their means. Nothing more "Normal" than that

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        1. Galahad‏ @JoustPosting Jan 26
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          I think we need more low skill workers to drive down wages and drive up the cost of living.

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