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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25

      There's nothing quite like seeing a thread full of people gloating about evading POP fare inspectors to remind me how stupid POP fare collection is

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    2. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Jan 25
      Replying to @380kmh

      I sentence you to a lifetime of riding buses in Brooklyn for this Vey Wrong Opinion

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
      Replying to @MarketUrbanism

      POP = "well fuck it guess we're never gonna make money on this"

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    4. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Jan 25
      Replying to @380kmh

      Farebeating rates are about even, in some cases less, than line-up-singe-file-like-kindergartners procedures

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    5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
      Replying to @MarketUrbanism

      Those Japanese providers don't fuck around with POP and as far as I know they're not plagued by fare-dodgers either

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    6. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism Jan 25
      Replying to @380kmh

      Japan doesn't need to fuck around with PoP because they have trains where in the west we have buses

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    7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
      Replying to @MarketUrbanism

      They don't use POP on buses either dude, just the same fare media they use on the trains

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    8. Alon Levy‏ @alon_levy Jan 25
      Replying to @380kmh @MarketUrbanism

      Right, but buses in Tokyo are so slow that the city mostly gave up on them. So best industry practice is elsewhere.

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    9. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
      Replying to @alon_levy @MarketUrbanism

      There are an awful lot around (and a whole lot of operators) for a city that gave up on them

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    10. Alon Levy‏ @alon_levy Jan 25
      Replying to @380kmh @MarketUrbanism

      Toei has, what, a million daily bus riders? That's not a lot for how big the city is. Compare that with TfL, or SBS/SMRT.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
      Replying to @alon_levy @MarketUrbanism

      I can't find annual bus ridership stats for Toei, so I'm not sure--but Toei isn't even the only bus provider in the 23 wards, let alone in the rest of the Tokyo area

      11:30 AM - 25 Jan 2018
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        1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
          Replying to @380kmh @alon_levy @MarketUrbanism

          Odakyu's fact book doesn't provide ridership for buses, but confirms that bus passengers account for about 6% of operating income--a worse farebox recovery than their trains, but still positive for every year listed (2012-present)

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        2. Alon Levy‏ @alon_levy Jan 25
          Replying to @380kmh @MarketUrbanism

          The private railroads run some connecting buses, but mostly the first mile in the suburbs is a bike and not a bus.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh Jan 25
          Replying to @alon_levy @MarketUrbanism

          "some" this is dishonest...the private railroads have extensive bus networks, often multiple networks (different sub-companies etc; Odakyu includes Odakyu Bus and also Kanagawa Chuo Bus plus a few more), and this is still leaving out other gov operators (eg Yokohama City Bus)

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