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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Is the goal to move lots of people, at their convenience? Or is the goal for all the people rich enough to afford to travel at will to be able to take up three seats?

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    2. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh

      We can't fit any more trains in though, at least in some parts of the network. Nor can we lengthen them.

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    3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @uncriticalsimon

      I find that a bit hard to believe...Odakyu managed to turn a double-track line into a quad-track line by turning it into two double-track tunnels, one above the other, increasing frequency from 24 to 36 trains per hour.

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    4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      You'd be amazed what you can do with very little space, if the will is there.

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    5. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh

      We're talking about Britain though, the land of underinvestment.

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    6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @uncriticalsimon

      Yes! Notice that in the land of adequate investment, surge pricing isn't necessary--makes me think surge pricing is a gimmick to paper over larger issues by gouging riders who can't be flexible with their travel times!

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    7. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh

      Probably hard to justify Japan's scale of investment though given how much longer the lines would have to be to serve the same number of people.

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    8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @uncriticalsimon

      Didn't you JUST say you can't fit any more trains or lengthen them in some parts of the network? Japan doesn't have some mystical fixed level of investment: they invest where there is need for expansion, that's all. UK should do the same: invest where capacity is falling short!

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    9. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh

      But who's going to pay for it? Japan has the density and public transport use to pay for it from fares. The UK does not.

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @uncriticalsimon

      The UK has a near 10% passenger rail mode share even when you exclude subways and trams; over 3 billion passengers carried on intercity and Tube lines in 2015... ...I think misallocation of revenue might be a bigger issue than lack of revenue.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Moreover, Odakyu's capacity improvement project was partially funded by government loans. Odakyu, as a profitable company, is able to REPAY those loans with its reliable fare revenue, and to cover all of its regular operations--but the state still steps in where necessary.

      8:59 AM - 12 Dec 2017
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        1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

          One thing is for sure, though: it will be very difficult for UK railways to ever be profitable if they do everything in their power to prevent high use of railways at times of high demand!

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        1. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
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          Japan's modal share of rail is 30% though.

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