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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017

      Haunted Forrest  🌲 Retweeted Simon

      What it "causes" is people being able to travel whenever they need to travel. Peak overcrowding or empty trains at other times are a reflection of people's schedules more than ticket prices.https://twitter.com/uncriticalsimon/status/940618887657414656 …

      Haunted Forrest  🌲 added,

      Simon @uncriticalsimon
      Replying to @380kmh
      Wouldn't this just cause epic peak overcrowding, and empty trains the rest of the day?
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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017

      Notice the assumption here: "If we fuck with prices enough we can force people to travel at times that are inconvenient for their itineraries." Two questions: 1: can we? do countries like the UK *not* experience peak crowding? 2: do we want to? I prefer crowds to price gouging

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    3. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh

      Peak pricing is Britain's way of attempting to cope with it. And also their way of trying to fill empty off-peak trains. Rather than America which lets them sit in the sidings.

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    4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @uncriticalsimon

      We don't do that, though...we run trains according to their timetable regardless of how full they are. If a run is consistently empty they'll adjust the timetable accordingly. Moreover, our intercity trains DO charge more if the trains fill up. Result: chronically empty.

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

      Is the goal to move lots of people, at their convenience? Or is the goal for all the people rich enough to afford to travel at will to be able to take up three seats?

      8:39 AM - 12 Dec 2017
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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

          Anyway: the country which I was using as an example for charging flat rates is Japan, not the USA. Obviously they get crowded in the peaks--just like they do, despite shenanigans, in the UK. But they're more popular off-peak than in UK too, as far as I know.

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        3. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          I used America because most of their commuter lines simply don't run off-peak at all.

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @uncriticalsimon

          For sure, although charging twice as much for rush hour tickets would not change that state of affairs.

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        2. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          We can't fit any more trains in though, at least in some parts of the network. Nor can we lengthen them.

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @uncriticalsimon

          I find that a bit hard to believe...Odakyu managed to turn a double-track line into a quad-track line by turning it into two double-track tunnels, one above the other, increasing frequency from 24 to 36 trains per hour.

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @uncriticalsimon

          You'd be amazed what you can do with very little space, if the will is there.

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        5. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          We're talking about Britain though, the land of underinvestment.

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        6. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @uncriticalsimon

          Yes! Notice that in the land of adequate investment, surge pricing isn't necessary--makes me think surge pricing is a gimmick to paper over larger issues by gouging riders who can't be flexible with their travel times!

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        7. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          Probably hard to justify Japan's scale of investment though given how much longer the lines would have to be to serve the same number of people.

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        8. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @uncriticalsimon

          Didn't you JUST say you can't fit any more trains or lengthen them in some parts of the network? Japan doesn't have some mystical fixed level of investment: they invest where there is need for expansion, that's all. UK should do the same: invest where capacity is falling short!

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        9. Simon‏ @uncriticalsimon 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @380kmh

          But who's going to pay for it? Japan has the density and public transport use to pay for it from fares. The UK does not.

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