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    Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017

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      2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017

        Since I'm seeing some people who don't think this is particularly inaccurate, here is a reality check:pic.twitter.com/7OXtWJXDaB

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017

        Full report on transit rider characteristics is here: https://www.apta.com/resources/reportsandpublications/Documents/APTA-Who-Rides-Public-Transportation-2017.pdf …

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      4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017

        My favorite charts from that report are the ones proving decisively that TRANSIT RIDERS ARE PEDESTRIANS, which is why I keep saying that if you want better transit, start by walking more places!pic.twitter.com/QN6H5VdQ6Z

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017

        When *do* people drive to get to transit? When they're taking a train--and even then, only sometimes, and only to get to it, not from itpic.twitter.com/12EE1VNrGi

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      2. 3rd String Villain‏ @BBBE555 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        TFW you're in SE Michigan and unless you'e one of the few that live near an unreliable bus they could sit on for 4 hours to get to work, you're sitting in a rusty car for an hour.

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @BBBE555

        if you lived near said bus, would you honestly prefer it to the rusty car tho

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      4. 3rd String Villain‏ @BBBE555 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        Uhm, no.

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @BBBE555

        so with that in mind, does it seem reasonable to say that said bus is the exclusive privilege of those wealthy enough to live near it?

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      6. 3rd String Villain‏ @BBBE555 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        In bizarro world, sure. Srsly - Detroit bus system is it's own surrealist nightmare. Might not fit the model here.

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      2. Central NJ Yimby 🇺🇸 🚲 🏙‏ @YIMBY_Princeton 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        Honestly, where I live in Jersey, hardly anybody takes mass transit, so I'm giving it a 2.

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @YIMBY_Princeton

        Would you say the part of Jersey you live in is particularly poor?

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      4. Central NJ Yimby 🇺🇸 🚲 🏙‏ @YIMBY_Princeton 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        Princeton itself is fairly wealthy. The people who ride transit here fall into two groups: fairly rich people taking the train to NYC, and poor people riding the bus from Trenton to do cleaning jobs etc.

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      5. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @YIMBY_Princeton

        "fairly" wealthy tells me you're either being modest or badly need to see more of the country

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      6. Central NJ Yimby 🇺🇸 🚲 🏙‏ @YIMBY_Princeton 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        Yeah, we are no doubt top 20% in the USA, maybe even top 5%, but believe it or not, there is a relatively low-income population in Princeton that is not present in other nearby suburban NJ townships.

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      2. vote full dem ballot november 6th‏ @hellworld93 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        Honestly it’s not wrong - suburbs are increasingly less income disparate than cities and more diverse...a book on it called infinite suburbia just came out that has some interesting takes on it

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      3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @hellworld93

        how much money would you wager that the median income of a transit passenger is below the median income of a driver

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      4. vote full dem ballot november 6th‏ @hellworld93 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @380kmh

        As the years go on, I’d wager a lot..demographics are trending towards proximity/access to transit being worth $$$$$$. I am very anti autocentrism, but I live in Woodbridge where a lot of low-middle income families are in a bind n forced to drive.

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      5. vote full dem ballot november 6th‏ @hellworld93 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @hellworld93 @380kmh

        Im not agreeing in a “god won’t someone think of the cars!!!” Way; im just saying there is truth that wealth disparity is quickly becoming expressed thru the ability to live comfortably in urban areas. Even within cities areas with poorer access to transit are where low income r

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      6. vote full dem ballot november 6th‏ @hellworld93 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @hellworld93 @380kmh

        Also we almost lost our public transit entirely and the buses haven’t been upgraded since uhhh .. late 80s early 90s? Our stops are a small sign on the side of the road with no sidewalk

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      7. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 8 Dec 2017
        Replying to @hellworld93

        just like our stops!

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