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    1. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @vanshnook @urbanophile

      moreover...talking abt existing networks like Dallas assumes they're built w stops in ideal locations & other such decisions made correctly

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    2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @vanshnook @urbanophile

      but when you look at Dallas you see very little "network" in core, plus very long lines w sparse stop spacing...bad for ridership and cost

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. vanshnookenraggen‏ @vanshnook 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @urbanophile

      Agreed. Transit works in networks and this is something that Nashville figured out.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @vanshnook @urbanophile

      if his point were "don't make mistakes of transit systems like Dallas" it would be one thing, but instead it's "don't build trains lol"

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Neil‏ @neipate96 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @vanshnook @urbanophile

      not familiar with Dallas, but it seems like a city where buses make more sense and trains may not be worthwhile

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    6. vanshnookenraggen‏ @vanshnook 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @neipate96 @380kmh @urbanophile

      Any city that's over 100 years old makes sense for trains.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. vanshnookenraggen‏ @vanshnook 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @vanshnook @neipate96 and

      In the 20th Century cities were redesigned for cars. So why can't we redesign them again for cars and trains? Saying we can't is just lazy.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Neil‏ @neipate96 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @vanshnook @380kmh @urbanophile

      we could with lots of new development. but trains in a low-density, de-centralized is unlikely to be well-used

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    9. Neil‏ @neipate96 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @neipate96 @vanshnook and

      nor have much speed advantage over buses

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    10. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @neipate96 @vanshnook @urbanophile

      given stop patterns for buses it's hard to imagine lacking a speed advantage--but yes, lack of use is the main obstacle

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      Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
      Replying to @380kmh @neipate96 and

      that said, chicken/egg problem for new dev supporting rail service--if no railway built, what incentive for new dev to be dense or infill?

      1:14 PM - 27 Oct 2017
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        2. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @neipate96 and

          crucial selling point of rail is that a trip by train takes as long when the train is full as when it's empty--can't say the same for roads!

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        3. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @neipate96 and

          so there's strong incentive to *never* build up to the point where roads are fully utilized, because such roads are miserable to drive on...

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        4. Haunted Forrest  🌲‏ @380kmh 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @neipate96 and

          ...and consequently if there's ever to be development above this congestion threshold, it helps for a railway to be already there

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        2. Market Urbanism‏ @MarketUrbanism 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @380kmh @neipate96 and

          "Wait, what?" —Houston https://www.google.com/maps/@29.779793,-95.5602189,3a,75y,262.75h,96.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sllZY0vArqMq6jvscLXXXjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 … "Yeah, I'm confused..." —southern Brooklyn, ca. 1960 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.593572,-73.9426686,3a,75y,313.86h,103.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stT5WCA46E9VhTS5N_nLtSQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 …

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        3. vanshnookenraggen‏ @vanshnook 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @MarketUrbanism @380kmh and

          Ok but what did Houston look like in 1960?

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        4. Neil‏ @neipate96 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @vanshnook @MarketUrbanism and

          Los Angeles got lots of dense infill from the 50-80s despite no rail service

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. vanshnookenraggen‏ @vanshnook 27 Oct 2017
          Replying to @neipate96 @MarketUrbanism and

          Density =/= walkability. The point is to built for a healthier future without the need for as much car use.

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