"Do you want this result?" vs "Do you want to do what it takes to get there?"
You would do so by going out, away from civilization, and fending for yourself on the frontier...but after that closed?
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We just got left with the remnants: urge to settle away from civilization & resentment of any sort of dependence on each other
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Both attitudes are directly opposed to idea of the "public square" or the city in general...Japan doesn't seem to have these attitudes
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