In most Japanese stations (and all Shinkansen stations) you can't even get on the platform without a ticket
Gotcha--no, tickets cost the same regardless of time of day. Philosophy is apparently "no need to extort people if crowds won't deter them"
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In Britain it's "how can we entice people onto off-peak trains". While peak time trains are at "sock the businessman" rates.
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ya...sounds brutal! In Japan the crowding is penalty enough for people who insist on traveling during peak
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Actually often the peak time business trains aren't too overcrowded. Because they're so expensive to use.
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So a peak single from Bristol to London is £102, but a "super off-peak single" (still unreserved, on the day) is £33.10.
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That's more like it--the price I gave at the top of the thread is the cheapest (read: slowest) between the two stops...fastest is ~£36
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Speed is mostly irrelevant to fares here, because BR decided not to surcharge InterCity trains. Unless (eg Bristol) there's a slow route.
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Express trains (conventional, not HSR) in Japan are usually more luxurious and have on-board staff to check tickets, so cost more to operate
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Arguably express trains are cheaper to operate, because they do more turns for the same number of driver hours.
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